"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Now would you guys please STOP posting the same topic over and over again!
I'm so sick of these stupid "looks"-threads, Im gonna give neg reputation for this one, you fool! :trouble: :kick:
 

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In my opinion, looks matter certainly on first impressions but if you can switch on all the attractive qualities in a conversation with any woman, then that can always lead to things a more attractive man with lesser game would only dream of.
 

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DukeNukem said:
Now would you guys please STOP posting the same topic over and over again!
I'm so sick of these stupid "looks"-threads, Im gonna give neg reputation for this one, you fool! :trouble: :kick:
Are you slow?

I made this post to be stickied so posts on looks would stop.

I too am tired of seeing all these posts about looks and I believe if this is stickied it will take care of that problem.

Did you read the first paragraph?

People are sick of looks threads that’s why I made this thread TOOL.

Mods sticky this.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Agreed....

Put it this way

Attractive male+masculine personality= extremely attractive
Average male+masculine personality= attractive
Attractive male+feminine personality= unattractive
Average male+feminine personality= extremely unattractive


a masculine personality meaning: mentally strong, competitive, disciplined, strong-willed, risk-taking.

feminine personality meaning: insecure, sensitive, self-conscious, anxiety

Its more about the vibe you give off. The good-looks will only serve to enhance your overall attractiveness.
 

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How about a way someone's never put it before.

Your best friend. Does he have to be good looking? Hell no. He's your best friend because he's cool as hell, you guys have a good time together and you share common interests.

A woman told me this. This is probably the best analogy I've heard and this should help guys really understand it's not just about looks. Really think about that.
 

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70% looks 30% game to get a date or for her to be interested.

30% looks 70% game to keep her
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Spaceman I appreciate your analogy but best friends are different. There is no attraction between best friends (at least I hope not) to get a woman you need to look decent. The analogy is flawed.

Like I said in your previous posts recycled information is used for recycled questions.

We are on the same page though.
 

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You're wrong Leviathan.

Some of the most beautiful woman in the world are married to ugly guys.

Seal? BURNT face, ugly, and is married to HEIDI KLUM! And to top that off, they aren't even of the same race.

So yes, the best friend analogy is close. I didn't say it was perfect, did I?
 

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Man the best friend analogy in no way touches on physical or emotional attraction between two people. Friendships and relationships are two different things you can't use an analogy of a friendship between two men to describe why women can be attracted to ugly men. It is a whole different ball park yes women can be attracted to ugly men but your analogy is flawed.

Cindy Crawford’s husbands is a rich ex model.

Brook Burke's is a famous, rich plastic surgeon.

Celebrities are not good examples.

And wtf has race got to do with anything?
 

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spaceman2001 said:
How about a way someone's never put it before.

Your best friend. Does he have to be good looking? Hell no. He's your best friend because he's cool as hell, you guys have a good time together and you share common interests.

A woman told me this. This is probably the best analogy I've heard and this should help guys really understand it's not just about looks. Really think about that.
As far as I've understood your analogy, you have sex with your best friend, who is terribly ugly?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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..lol..I feel tempted to respond the same way you did @leviathan ;-)
If your talking about Duke........he is responding to spaceman.

If not what do u mean by that?
 

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My point is they can get many RICH GOOD LOOKING MEN TOO, but they settle for much less, don't they??

And race doesn't have to do with anything, but it lessens the odds of a hookup. Most people stay within their race.

So with what I am saying, I am right.

And I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying you should not brush your teeth, not dress with style, etc. Don't over-analyze

And no, I don't have sex with my best friend. I'm straight. Don't be an idiot.

Leviathan, you over analyze way too much.
 

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Ok man whatever you have your analogy I have mine which is more understandable. We both agree that looks aren’t the be all and end all of attracting women.

I don't know about America but here in Australia people do not stick to their own race. Cindy Crawford husband is an ex model wow he doesn't look good in a picture take of him after he was married and he had a chance to let himself go. Remember she was previously married to Richard Geere, celebreties are bad examples.

Sticky the post so we avoid threads arguing over the importance of looks to your game.

MODS??
 

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Lenny Kravitz is a ugly mofo. So are many other "hot hot hottttt" men. A man, be it "metrosexual" or not, takes care of how he looks, he won't be walking with the robes of a friggin hippie or ****. You walk straight, clean, like the alpha male you are, and that is attractive...

At the end of the day, you must give your best... not because you're going to get *****, but because you want to be the greatest.
 

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Lenny kravits was engaged to supermodel adriana lima 2 years ago, and you'r going to sit here and tell me that adriana lima can't do better? pfft
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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