"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Any recommendations? The ones I looked at were way out of my price range.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Then my question is... how do I know what's causing my problems without feedback?
 

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Then my question is... how do I know what's causing my problems without feedback?
You'll get plenty of feedback here, your own observations, and women's actions.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I'm not a coach and I'm not from Philly but read the post below (excerpt from Pook's thread "Let Yourself Fail." Read that entire thread then go out and just do it. Allowing yourself to fail is more valuable than any dating coach's advice.
The failure of my most recent relationship has strangely felt liberating and empowering. I took a gamble and held my ground and the relationship may be lost, but it's sort of an experiment. I might be learning how to actually maintain things for the long term by letting go. At a minimum I walked away on my own terms. In any event, the process of randomly losing my dream girl at the height of our romance toughened me up, so it will be difficult for any woman to ever hurt me ever again.

OP - Don't pay a dating coach. Go to the best strip club and pay the hottest girl a few hundred for a paid night off, tell her to dress up and take her to the finest restaurant. It costs the same. She'll coach you indirectly, just keep her from grimacing.
 

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Honestly, a dating coach was my last resort, I was hoping to find someone who lives in the city who would show me the ropes.
 

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OP - Don't pay a dating coach. Go to the best strip club and pay the hottest girl a few hundred for a paid night off, tell her to dress up and take her to the finest restaurant. It costs the same. She'll coach you indirectly, just keep her from grimacing.
I know I and other guys probably take a different approach and would advise against strippers, but I know Neil interacts with them regularly. With that said, and stating my own position as I just did, I have to admit this is pretty good idea for someone who needs work on their social skills with women.
 

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I know I and other guys probably take a different approach and would advise against strippers, but I know Neil interacts with them regularly. With that said, and stating my own position as I just did, I have to admit this is pretty good idea for someone who needs work on their social skills with women.
(Good point - this might only work if you are big enough to be a bouncer - some of them will rob you).

I've only dealt with strippers who could convince me they were highly attracted to me, so it might be different, but personally I think they would welcome the idea. I'm amazed when some girls tell me they have never been to a nice restaurant before.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Why deal with strippers, who on average, have tons of emotional issues and are giving slob jobs for $100 in the VIP room?

What is the upside, they stop stripping, still have emotional damage and start working at fvcking McDonalds as you "fall for them"?

Sure there might be one or two out of a bundle that are halfway decent, but they are trained salespeople......who are good at taking your money. You wont find out the good one from the bad one until she has you mentally fvcked along with her.

I know several chicks who strip. Even the ones that look decent and act sort of normal have tons of emotional baggage. I dont care what anyone says, they have little to no self respect based on what they do.

No upside at all. There are tons of educated, motivated, good looking women out there to be dealing with that sh!t. IMO, strip clubs are for people wanting to just have a good time with their buddies or guys who have little confidence. Trying to buy pvssy.
 

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Don't get a dating coach dude.

Man sometimes I read these threads and think you guys are trapped in 2004.

Look online for normal red pill guys who live in the Philly area and try to get in with them. Don't pay some scammer $200 an hour for advice you can get for free from yourself and regular guys. Its not that serious, trust me.
 

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I know I and other guys probably take a different approach and would advise against strippers, but I know Neil interacts with them regularly. With that said, and stating my own position as I just did, I have to admit this is pretty good idea for someone who needs work on their social skills with women.
A friend from highschool ended up becoming a stripper. Cute girl, ended up being a ho, too.:(
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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