"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Any recommendations? The ones I looked at were way out of my price range.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Then my question is... how do I know what's causing my problems without feedback?
 

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Then my question is... how do I know what's causing my problems without feedback?
You'll get plenty of feedback here, your own observations, and women's actions.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I'm not a coach and I'm not from Philly but read the post below (excerpt from Pook's thread "Let Yourself Fail." Read that entire thread then go out and just do it. Allowing yourself to fail is more valuable than any dating coach's advice.
The failure of my most recent relationship has strangely felt liberating and empowering. I took a gamble and held my ground and the relationship may be lost, but it's sort of an experiment. I might be learning how to actually maintain things for the long term by letting go. At a minimum I walked away on my own terms. In any event, the process of randomly losing my dream girl at the height of our romance toughened me up, so it will be difficult for any woman to ever hurt me ever again.

OP - Don't pay a dating coach. Go to the best strip club and pay the hottest girl a few hundred for a paid night off, tell her to dress up and take her to the finest restaurant. It costs the same. She'll coach you indirectly, just keep her from grimacing.
 

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Honestly, a dating coach was my last resort, I was hoping to find someone who lives in the city who would show me the ropes.
 

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OP - Don't pay a dating coach. Go to the best strip club and pay the hottest girl a few hundred for a paid night off, tell her to dress up and take her to the finest restaurant. It costs the same. She'll coach you indirectly, just keep her from grimacing.
I know I and other guys probably take a different approach and would advise against strippers, but I know Neil interacts with them regularly. With that said, and stating my own position as I just did, I have to admit this is pretty good idea for someone who needs work on their social skills with women.
 

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I know I and other guys probably take a different approach and would advise against strippers, but I know Neil interacts with them regularly. With that said, and stating my own position as I just did, I have to admit this is pretty good idea for someone who needs work on their social skills with women.
(Good point - this might only work if you are big enough to be a bouncer - some of them will rob you).

I've only dealt with strippers who could convince me they were highly attracted to me, so it might be different, but personally I think they would welcome the idea. I'm amazed when some girls tell me they have never been to a nice restaurant before.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Why deal with strippers, who on average, have tons of emotional issues and are giving slob jobs for $100 in the VIP room?

What is the upside, they stop stripping, still have emotional damage and start working at fvcking McDonalds as you "fall for them"?

Sure there might be one or two out of a bundle that are halfway decent, but they are trained salespeople......who are good at taking your money. You wont find out the good one from the bad one until she has you mentally fvcked along with her.

I know several chicks who strip. Even the ones that look decent and act sort of normal have tons of emotional baggage. I dont care what anyone says, they have little to no self respect based on what they do.

No upside at all. There are tons of educated, motivated, good looking women out there to be dealing with that sh!t. IMO, strip clubs are for people wanting to just have a good time with their buddies or guys who have little confidence. Trying to buy pvssy.
 

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Don't get a dating coach dude.

Man sometimes I read these threads and think you guys are trapped in 2004.

Look online for normal red pill guys who live in the Philly area and try to get in with them. Don't pay some scammer $200 an hour for advice you can get for free from yourself and regular guys. Its not that serious, trust me.
 

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I know I and other guys probably take a different approach and would advise against strippers, but I know Neil interacts with them regularly. With that said, and stating my own position as I just did, I have to admit this is pretty good idea for someone who needs work on their social skills with women.
A friend from highschool ended up becoming a stripper. Cute girl, ended up being a ho, too.:(
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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