"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Any recommendations? The ones I looked at were way out of my price range.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Then my question is... how do I know what's causing my problems without feedback?
 

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Then my question is... how do I know what's causing my problems without feedback?
You'll get plenty of feedback here, your own observations, and women's actions.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I'm not a coach and I'm not from Philly but read the post below (excerpt from Pook's thread "Let Yourself Fail." Read that entire thread then go out and just do it. Allowing yourself to fail is more valuable than any dating coach's advice.
The failure of my most recent relationship has strangely felt liberating and empowering. I took a gamble and held my ground and the relationship may be lost, but it's sort of an experiment. I might be learning how to actually maintain things for the long term by letting go. At a minimum I walked away on my own terms. In any event, the process of randomly losing my dream girl at the height of our romance toughened me up, so it will be difficult for any woman to ever hurt me ever again.

OP - Don't pay a dating coach. Go to the best strip club and pay the hottest girl a few hundred for a paid night off, tell her to dress up and take her to the finest restaurant. It costs the same. She'll coach you indirectly, just keep her from grimacing.
 

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Honestly, a dating coach was my last resort, I was hoping to find someone who lives in the city who would show me the ropes.
 

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OP - Don't pay a dating coach. Go to the best strip club and pay the hottest girl a few hundred for a paid night off, tell her to dress up and take her to the finest restaurant. It costs the same. She'll coach you indirectly, just keep her from grimacing.
I know I and other guys probably take a different approach and would advise against strippers, but I know Neil interacts with them regularly. With that said, and stating my own position as I just did, I have to admit this is pretty good idea for someone who needs work on their social skills with women.
 

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I know I and other guys probably take a different approach and would advise against strippers, but I know Neil interacts with them regularly. With that said, and stating my own position as I just did, I have to admit this is pretty good idea for someone who needs work on their social skills with women.
(Good point - this might only work if you are big enough to be a bouncer - some of them will rob you).

I've only dealt with strippers who could convince me they were highly attracted to me, so it might be different, but personally I think they would welcome the idea. I'm amazed when some girls tell me they have never been to a nice restaurant before.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Why deal with strippers, who on average, have tons of emotional issues and are giving slob jobs for $100 in the VIP room?

What is the upside, they stop stripping, still have emotional damage and start working at fvcking McDonalds as you "fall for them"?

Sure there might be one or two out of a bundle that are halfway decent, but they are trained salespeople......who are good at taking your money. You wont find out the good one from the bad one until she has you mentally fvcked along with her.

I know several chicks who strip. Even the ones that look decent and act sort of normal have tons of emotional baggage. I dont care what anyone says, they have little to no self respect based on what they do.

No upside at all. There are tons of educated, motivated, good looking women out there to be dealing with that sh!t. IMO, strip clubs are for people wanting to just have a good time with their buddies or guys who have little confidence. Trying to buy pvssy.
 

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Don't get a dating coach dude.

Man sometimes I read these threads and think you guys are trapped in 2004.

Look online for normal red pill guys who live in the Philly area and try to get in with them. Don't pay some scammer $200 an hour for advice you can get for free from yourself and regular guys. Its not that serious, trust me.
 

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I know I and other guys probably take a different approach and would advise against strippers, but I know Neil interacts with them regularly. With that said, and stating my own position as I just did, I have to admit this is pretty good idea for someone who needs work on their social skills with women.
A friend from highschool ended up becoming a stripper. Cute girl, ended up being a ho, too.:(
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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