MisterMike
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Any recommendations? The ones I looked at were way out of my price range.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Looking for a Dating Coach or Teacher in Philly
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
wifehunter
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Coach??? Get some cheerleaders, too!!!
MisterMike
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*claps sarcastically*
MisterMike
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Then my question is... how do I know what's causing my problems without feedback?
wifehunter
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You'll get plenty of feedback here, your own observations, and women's actions.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
The failure of my most recent relationship has strangely felt liberating and empowering. I took a gamble and held my ground and the relationship may be lost, but it's sort of an experiment. I might be learning how to actually maintain things for the long term by letting go. At a minimum I walked away on my own terms. In any event, the process of randomly losing my dream girl at the height of our romance toughened me up, so it will be difficult for any woman to ever hurt me ever again.
OP - Don't pay a dating coach. Go to the best strip club and pay the hottest girl a few hundred for a paid night off, tell her to dress up and take her to the finest restaurant. It costs the same. She'll coach you indirectly, just keep her from grimacing.
MisterMike
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Honestly, a dating coach was my last resort, I was hoping to find someone who lives in the city who would show me the ropes.
BetterCallSaul
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I know I and other guys probably take a different approach and would advise against strippers, but I know Neil interacts with them regularly. With that said, and stating my own position as I just did, I have to admit this is pretty good idea for someone who needs work on their social skills with women.
(Good point - this might only work if you are big enough to be a bouncer - some of them will rob you).
I've only dealt with strippers who could convince me they were highly attracted to me, so it might be different, but personally I think they would welcome the idea. I'm amazed when some girls tell me they have never been to a nice restaurant before.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Glassguy
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Why deal with strippers, who on average, have tons of emotional issues and are giving slob jobs for $100 in the VIP room?
What is the upside, they stop stripping, still have emotional damage and start working at fvcking McDonalds as you "fall for them"?
Sure there might be one or two out of a bundle that are halfway decent, but they are trained salespeople......who are good at taking your money. You wont find out the good one from the bad one until she has you mentally fvcked along with her.
I know several chicks who strip. Even the ones that look decent and act sort of normal have tons of emotional baggage. I dont care what anyone says, they have little to no self respect based on what they do.
No upside at all. There are tons of educated, motivated, good looking women out there to be dealing with that sh!t. IMO, strip clubs are for people wanting to just have a good time with their buddies or guys who have little confidence. Trying to buy pvssy.
What is the upside, they stop stripping, still have emotional damage and start working at fvcking McDonalds as you "fall for them"?
Sure there might be one or two out of a bundle that are halfway decent, but they are trained salespeople......who are good at taking your money. You wont find out the good one from the bad one until she has you mentally fvcked along with her.
I know several chicks who strip. Even the ones that look decent and act sort of normal have tons of emotional baggage. I dont care what anyone says, they have little to no self respect based on what they do.
No upside at all. There are tons of educated, motivated, good looking women out there to be dealing with that sh!t. IMO, strip clubs are for people wanting to just have a good time with their buddies or guys who have little confidence. Trying to buy pvssy.
SmooveMooves
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Don't get a dating coach dude.
Man sometimes I read these threads and think you guys are trapped in 2004.
Look online for normal red pill guys who live in the Philly area and try to get in with them. Don't pay some scammer $200 an hour for advice you can get for free from yourself and regular guys. Its not that serious, trust me.
Man sometimes I read these threads and think you guys are trapped in 2004.
Look online for normal red pill guys who live in the Philly area and try to get in with them. Don't pay some scammer $200 an hour for advice you can get for free from yourself and regular guys. Its not that serious, trust me.
Initiatedindenial
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You are making yourself an easy target to get ripped off. Only you can coach yourself.
wifehunter
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Yep, the money is better used elsewhere. Maybe investing?
wifehunter
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A friend from highschool ended up becoming a stripper. Cute girl, ended up being a ho, too.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.