penkitten
Master Don Juan
sunday night chat topic:
Spring Fever- Get off your ASS and get in shape!
tonight!
Spring Fever- Get off your ASS and get in shape!
tonight!
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
last night alot of people were talking about work out routines and fitness but probably before you got in there, as many people were an hour or so early for chat last night.Magma said:Why create topics if it's not going to be discussed? I've noticed that the trend is to have 10 or more different members having three different conversations going at the same time. It's confusing and a waste of time, imo. Last night, for example, the conversation turned into how to COOK MEAT. I think the topics are good, but I joined in last night preparing to talk about being physically active. I didn't want to share recipes for crissakes. That's what foodtv.com is for. I mean, it's not as if there's a "DJ" way to braise your steak. You can get that information anywhere. Don't clog up the live chat.
If this is how live chat is going to go, we should create TWO chat rooms: one designated for the chosen topic, and one designated as a "social lounge," if you will, to just shoot the breeze and talk about off-topic items. Too many people talking about off-topic shyt creates unnecessary lag in the chat room, which contributes to more chat confusion.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
pm your email addy to me so i can send the inviteColin O'Brien said:Says I need an admin password?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Learn what, exactly? I don't come here every single day.MacAvoy said:However after 4-5 times, you think you'd learn.
Originally it didn't say "tonight". That was modified a week or two ago.azanon said:The thread title needs to at least have a date. Is there a live chat tonight? (Monday, April 14th) There should be because this thread title says "live sosuave chat: Tonight's topic:" I must have clicked on this thread at least 6-7 times now only to discover that "tonight" meant some other day already past.
Hmmmmpenkitten said:this sunday night's topic
4-20-08 10pm eastern
Paradox's How do women process regret?
lead by Paradox himself...
be there !
I agree with Iqqi here. Why is it so hard to believe that women think the same as men nowadays? Maybe in previous times when men and women lived completely different lives but nowadays the only difference in their lives is giving birth and bleeding every couple of weeks imo. Once you see the thought process behind women KNOWING they are the prize and always having men at their beck and call is it not understandable why they act the way they do?iqqi said:Women regret same as men.
I know a lot of women who would think the exact opposite of the OP. They think WE are the ones that stew and analyze, while men are only occupied with the "real time".
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I'll try to be there, eyes propped open with toothpicks like Bean.penkitten said:this sunday night's topic
4-20-08 10pm eastern
Paradox's How do women process regret?
lead by Paradox himself...
be there !
bump up the threadLovelyLady said:Tonights topic:
The importance of intimacy and it's relationship with trust.
http://www.chatzy.com/122298398237
Courtesty of penkitten.
Join up and let's converse in real-time.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.