"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Listen Up

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Yeah...felt like catching your attention, sorry. Um, basically...when talking to a girl, how would you make her remember to call you back. I mean, if a girl really wants you, of course she'd remember, but it's not at that stage yet. I basically want to talk to this girl tonight, and have her call me up tommorow night and then we go out and do something. What could I say tonight that would make her really want to talk to me again soon? Basically, how would I make her the pursuer.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Someone needs to lock stupid threads like this. It's just a waste of space.
 

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Originally posted by JC Jerkson
You are a lazy keyboard jockey.

You suck.

DAFS = Do a fvcking search.

Then read the DJ Bible.

[Bytch Slap]


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Seems to me like all you do is go around the boards and bytch and moan. I know how to search, and do it regularly. Clearly I had trouble finding my answer.
 

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Originally posted by LeMac
Seems to me like all you do is go around the boards and bytch and moan. I know how to search, and do it regularly. Clearly I had trouble finding my answer.
I'll bet that you didn't read the bible.

That is why so many of these threads are popping up.
 

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Originally posted by DaKidS3
I'll bet that you didn't read the bible.

That is why so many of these threads are popping up.
I've honestly not read every single part o it, but I've read stuff that you might consider applicable to my question. I don't particuclarly like the Gunwitch method, and I couldn't find anything directly applicable to what I'm looking for.

EDIT: And Jerkson, you're a moron. If you read what I posted, this isn't about' call her up, take her out, **** her'. I'm trying to specifically turn the tables in the pursuit so I can reduce the feeling where I'm being the pursuer.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Originally posted by LeMac
I've honestly not read every single part o it, but I've read stuff that you might consider applicable to my question. I don't particuclarly like the Gunwitch method, and I couldn't find anything directly applicable to what I'm looking for.
Why wait for her to take action on you? If you want to see her, YOU are the one who should take action.
 

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Originally posted by LeMac
Yeah...felt like catching your attention, sorry. Um, basically...when talking to a girl, how would you make her remember to call you back. I mean, if a girl really wants you, of course she'd remember, but it's not at that stage yet. I basically want to talk to this girl tonight, and have her call me up tommorow night and then we go out and do something. What could I say tonight that would make her really want to talk to me again soon? Basically, how would I make her the pursuer.
If a girl wants to call you back, she will. If she wants to see you, she will. If you need to make her "remember" then you're not doing things correctly.

What do you mean, its not at that stage yet?

Call her yourself then. If she doesn't want to do something, then move on.

Their is no "magic line" that will make a girl drool over you.
 

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Re: Re: Listen Up

Originally posted by DaKidS3
If a girl wants to call you back, she will. If she wants to see you, she will. If you need to make her "remember" then you're not doing things correctly.

What do you mean, its not at that stage yet?

Call her yourself then. If she doesn't want to do something, then move on.

Their is no "magic line" that will make a girl drool over you.
I think that's where your problem lies. You don't just give up on a girl if she doesn't have initial attraction. What kind of behavior is that for a PUA? Sure, if she's taking up TOO much of your attention then definitely drop her, but if you're just starting with a target (like I am) then wtf.

Um...yeah, this is hard to put into words, but basically, are there key things you could work into a conversation to keep you on her mind. I mean...bah.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Listen Up

Originally posted by LeMac
I think that's where your problem lies. You don't just give up on a girl if she doesn't have initial attraction. What kind of behavior is that for a PUA? Sure, if she's taking up TOO much of your attention then definitely drop her, but if you're just starting with a target (like I am) then wtf.
What kind of behavior is this?

Within the first 5 minutes of meeting a girl, she knows if she wants to f*ck you or not. Chances are, if she has no attraction now, she probably won't.

If a girl isn't interested, next her, and move on. An AFC would hang around hoping for something to happen.

You should read the bible.
 

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You gotta wonder why JC Jerkson goes outta his way to moan and groan on a forum about picking up women...:D
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen Up

Originally posted by DaKidS3


Within the first 5 minutes of meeting a girl, she knows if she wants to f*ck you or not. Chances are, if she has no attraction now, she probably won't.

If a girl isn't interested, next her, and move on. An AFC would hang around hoping for something to happen.


..quite honestly , girls know by just looking at you and it's really in that instant.

BUT things like social proof, social value,high status are all things
that up ones attractiveness- even if she wasn't initially.
 

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Originally posted by JC Jerkson
lol i love you all


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lol thanks JC :)!! Didn't think you cared so much about me. But all the moanin and gronin he doing is for the right reasons :p!. Anyways I don't know why I said that but don't FLAME me plz :-(!... So anyways back to my DJ bible reading :woo: :woo: :cheer: :cheer: (who knew reading was so fun ) :)
 
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