"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Legends of SS : help me close this -I think I have mommy issues - , 3rd married woman !

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This hottie that I got number and within 3 msgs I asked her out ! She said busy at night with daughter ~ last msg I sent was; yeah understandable , daughter comes first ~ either way if you are up for daytime (I asked her for a night hang out, which she say daughter blah blah) than msg me , no worries

today is 4th day and I was left on read !!
However today on my way , I ran into her - few feet away she was with her husband , she noticed me before I did .- she tried to ignore me and my grin become bigger - noticed her body become stiff , eyes wide open , tried to look away obviously (husband) than force herself to look at me no blinking .

this made me interested again to hook up with her .

Legends of Sosuave , how would you proceed ?!
Mission : F closing

please don’t lecture me on morals and stuff !
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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This is a married woman with kids.

Morals aside, if you don't want to risk ending up dead, I'd probably keep swiping on your apps for a single woman - especially since this guy knows what you look like now.
Fair enough ~
 

Prepostereax

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She's flirting with you for the attention and validation, bro
Very unlikely she actually intends to bite
 

plumber

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how did you meet her, cold approach or regular contact that you will interact with in the future?

yes she is married. you know that, and she knows that. her being married does not really lower your chances, might even increase them.
if you succeed, this usually is devastating for the other man. in very deep ways. its also really common and that's why your chances are high.

why does it make your more interested than before ? is mogging another man in this way cool ??
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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kzar_kzar

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She's flirting with you for the attention and validation, bro
Very unlikely she actually intends to bite
I see ; I will leave it on that msg , unless she reached out

if I ever run into her solo, I am thinking of commenting on her husband , maybe like oh he’s a handsome, does he has good performance.! Not sure if a good idea -
 

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how did you meet her, cold approach or regular contact that you will interact with in the future?

yes she is married. you know that, and she knows that. her being married does not really lower your chances, might even increase them.
if you succeed, this usually is devastating for the other man. in very deep ways. its also really common and that's why your chances are high.

why does it make your more interested than before ? is mogging another man in this way cool ??
warm approach at a printing shop ~ interested because she acted that way along her husband , - and it’s a hint that she knows what she’s doing is wrong but has a “wild” side or guts to do something “sinful” taboo -
 

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warm approach at a printing shop ~ interested because she acted that way along her husband , - and it’s a hint that she knows what she’s doing is wrong but has a “wild” side or guts to do something “sinful” taboo -
how about you just approach the husband and ask him if its ok for him. that way you will have no bad karma. hehe.
 

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Pursue and close her :D
Seduce and destroy - no mercy :devil:

hey, no skin off my nose if her husband finds you afterwards and beats you up! :rofl:

but seriously tho, why does lusting after married women = mommy issues? Not sure that’s correct interpretation
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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The medium is the message, and women communicate covertly. She left you on read for four days, which suggests a lack of interest on her part.

Also, why are you grinning like a little kid? You need to maintain your composure rather than let your excitement get the better of you. And why would you bring up her husband’s sexual performance if you ran into her alone? You’re trying to hook up with her, not make yourself look foolish. You have no sense of timing, discretion, or finesse. Even if the woman were single, it sounds like you would make a scene and fly off the handle if she didn’t respond the way you wanted, whether now or down the road.

Right now, you’re more of a liability than an asset. You need the social intelligence and game to read the situation, exercise discretion, and avoid turning a potential opportunity into an unnecessary problem, especially for her.


PS: I’ll bet you would have gotten a better response from her if you had ignored her completely and carried on with your day rather than visibly reacting to her presence. Again, a lack of composure and social awareness.
 
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Find someone single. Only people coming from a place of lack feel the need to get with someone married with kids.
 

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The medium is the message, and women communicate covertly. She left you on read for four days, which suggests a lack of interest on her part.

Also, why are you grinning like a little kid? You need to maintain your composure rather than let your excitement get the better of you. And why would you bring up her husband’s sexual performance if you ran into her alone? You’re trying to hook up with her, not make yourself look foolish. You have no sense of timing, discretion, or finesse. Even if the woman were single, it sounds like you would make a scene and fly off the handle if she didn’t respond the way you wanted, whether now or down the road.

Right now, you’re more of a liability than an asset. You need the social intelligence and game to read the situation, exercise discretion, and avoid turning a potential opportunity into an unnecessary problem, especially for her.


PS: I’ll bet you would have gotten a better response from her if you had ignored her completely and carried on with your day rather than visibly reacting to her presence. Again, a lack of composure and social awareness.
got it. my monkey brain thought it’s a good idea to let her know I saw her as well ! And I still think me smirking let her know that I see her as well .
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

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Pursue and close her :D
Seduce and destroy - no mercy :devil:

hey, no skin off my nose if her husband finds you afterwards and beats you up! :rofl:

but seriously tho, why does lusting after married women = mommy issues? Not sure that’s correct interpretation
roger that , will report back if anything positive haha
 

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Help me!

I'm surrounded by more easily available and delicious food than the world has ever seen, but I feel compelled to eat poison!

What should I do?
 

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I've done this once in my life: I followed her lead mostly and didn't chase. I basically reciprocated and let it be her idea on her timeline. She did all of the initiation except when she was in my presence and I initiated the sex.

That was dumb to ask her out. Create more of a relationship so she can trust you. Once she is comfortable and feeling horny she will make herself available.

Girls who want to cheat don't schedule dates.
 
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