"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Leaving voicemails?

flowtheory

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I agree with this. Especially the end, where if a girl doesn’t yet have your number or is a weird exception-case like mine, calling without a VM or no text after is probably assumed to be some telemarketer or spam call - at least that is immediately what I would assume if I had missed calls from a number I didn’t know and didn’t get a VM or a text.

I’m planning to leave a super short, simple Vm. “Hey, girlfirstname, it’s BJP. Give me a call or shoot me a text when you’re free!” And leave it with that.
No voicemail. And don’t give her options.

Call. But if she already has your number, leave it at that.

What’s the situation with this woman; have you been out already?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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BJP1991

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No voicemail. And don’t give her options.

Call. But if she already has your number, leave it at that.

What’s the situation with this woman; have you been out already?
I’ve said it already but our first date was earlier this week and since she has that old crap phone she doesn’t have my number saved. Her phone got destroyed between the setup for our first date and the first date itself. Calling with no VM if she doesn’t have my number is pointless
 
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