"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Leading but not when it comes to commitment?

firstbornunicorn

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I hear a lot about men taking the lead. But most guides mention waiting for the woman to push for commitment. Looking back at my life there have been very few cases where this has happened overtly. If I didn't pick up on nuances and took the lead, I basically wouldn't have had any relationships with the actual label.

The women who were overt were incredibly low quality/pushy. The higher quality ones seemed to put out tiny clues here and there and like they wanted me to take the lead.

Thoughts?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Yes always wait until she brings it up.

Look for cues like her wanting to invite you to meet her family or invite you to family functions and such.

If you're still cloudy, another thing you can do is to put her in a plausible deniability situation like see if she starts revealing more things and her feelings towards you when she's drunk or high as an example.
 

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I have had more than one woman tell me they are only seeing me and they don't want to see anyone else.
 

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The women who were overt were incredibly low quality/pushy. The higher quality ones seemed to put out tiny clues here and there and like they wanted me to take the lead.

Thoughts?
Fully agreed.. Case closed
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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EyeBRollin

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They bring up commitment always. They just speak in covert language:

“Where is this going?”
“Are you still dating anyone else?”
“What are we?”
“I don’t want you talking to other girls.”
“Are we together?”
 

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They bring up commitment always. They just speak in covert language:

“Where is this going?”
“Are you still dating anyone else?”
“What are we?”
“I don’t want you talking to other girls.”
“Are we together?”
That's not even that covert.

I dated a girl from London whilst living in Oslo, and after banging for 3-4 months she didn't like her job anymore and was considering moving back to London, and then just asked "can you think of any reasons for me to stay?". Extra covert.
 

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They bring up commitment always. They just speak in covert language:

“Where is this going?”
“Are you still dating anyone else?”
“What are we?”
“I don’t want you talking to other girls.”
“Are we together?”
One that has happened to me a few times is they say "I am not seeing anyone else right now"
 
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