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Leading but not when it comes to commitment?

firstbornunicorn

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I hear a lot about men taking the lead. But most guides mention waiting for the woman to push for commitment. Looking back at my life there have been very few cases where this has happened overtly. If I didn't pick up on nuances and took the lead, I basically wouldn't have had any relationships with the actual label.

The women who were overt were incredibly low quality/pushy. The higher quality ones seemed to put out tiny clues here and there and like they wanted me to take the lead.

Thoughts?
 

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I hear a lot about men taking the lead. But most guides mention waiting for the woman to push for commitment. Looking back at my life there have been very few cases where this has happened overtly. If I didn't pick up on nuances and took the lead, I basically wouldn't have had any relationships with the actual label.

The women who were overt were incredibly low quality/pushy. The higher quality ones seemed to put out tiny clues here and there and like they wanted me to take the lead.

Thoughts?
This.

High quality women drop hints. They are very rarely direct about things like commitment.
 

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Yes always wait until she brings it up.

Look for cues like her wanting to invite you to meet her family or invite you to family functions and such.

If you're still cloudy, another thing you can do is to put her in a plausible deniability situation like see if she starts revealing more things and her feelings towards you when she's drunk or high as an example.
 

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They bring up commitment always. They just speak in covert language:

“Where is this going?”
“Are you still dating anyone else?”
“What are we?”
“I don’t want you talking to other girls.”
“Are we together?”
 

firstbornunicorn

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They bring up commitment always. They just speak in covert language:

“Where is this going?”
“Are you still dating anyone else?”
“What are we?”
“I don’t want you talking to other girls.”
“Are we together?”
That's not even that covert.

I dated a girl from London whilst living in Oslo, and after banging for 3-4 months she didn't like her job anymore and was considering moving back to London, and then just asked "can you think of any reasons for me to stay?". Extra covert.
 

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They bring up commitment always. They just speak in covert language:

“Where is this going?”
“Are you still dating anyone else?”
“What are we?”
“I don’t want you talking to other girls.”
“Are we together?”
One that has happened to me a few times is they say "I am not seeing anyone else right now"
 
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