"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Okay, i need a Sure-Fire way of knowing whether or not a girl likes me. Not any girl in particular, just girls i meet at parties/social events. Stuff like that. One technique or move i can use to find out.

I'm scared to overdo my kino and scare chicks off, so i like to know if theres a connection before i really get into things.

I need something that works for special cases too. Like for example i was at a party on the weekend, and i was getting close to this one girl. Pretty hardcore kino. And then her friend showed up and the girl just kinda went away from me. Then at the end of the night i asked the girl for a kiss, and she said no because her friend liked me (her friend was watching us). I know for a fact that her friend liked me, even before the party. Anyways, in this case, i wasnt sure at all if she liked me or not. Because she did pay alot of attention to me until her friend showed up, then she payed more attention to the other guys.

So how do I know?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Why the hell did you ask for the kiss?
 
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The Shocker said:
Why the hell did you ask for the kiss?
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It was a game. Her last name was Djini so i joked around with her asking if she could grant me 3 wishes. My last wish was for a kiss... i thought it was a classic DJ move...
 
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The Shocker said:
Why the hell did you ask for the kiss?
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It was a game. Her last name was Djini so i joked around with her asking if she could grant me 3 wishes. My last wish was for a kiss... i thought it was a classic DJ move...
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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saber101 said:
It was a game. Her last name was Djini so i joked around with her asking if she could grant me 3 wishes. My last wish was for a kiss... i thought it was a classic DJ move...
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I haven't heard of a situationg where asking for a kiss is considerred dj, your situation does not count. and she also did not kiss you because "her friend likes you"? <--- lame excuse
 
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By asking for a kiss did you actually go "can you kiss me?" or did you tell her to kiss you like Style does his "Kiss goodbye" and taps his cheek thing?
 
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Plec07 said:
By asking for a kiss did you actually go "can you kiss me?" or did you tell her to kiss you like Style does his "Kiss goodbye" and taps his cheek thing?
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When i was leaving i said "i know what i want for my third wish, a kiss, since i didnt get one during the game" (we had just finished playing spin the bottle). Thats exactly what i said

Plus, the friend liking me wasnt an excuse. Her friends told me she did even before i went to the party (before i met the girl i asked for a kiss from)

Maybe she didnt want to kiss me, but she was still telling the truth. This is why i need an effective way of telling whether or not a chick likes u
 
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I didn't really get what you were saying in the above posts, but what you said to the chick wasn't THAT bad, at least not as bad as saying "can I kiss you?"

There are better ways to do it though. Learn from the experience.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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At parties and social events, if a girl is interested she will look and you and smile, making subtle gestures that are REALLY hard to read. Remember that most girls don't just like you immediatly, rather they begin to like you after talking to you. And since it is a party/social event the level of kino should be clear - close dancing, hands, shoulders. She will let you know
 
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