Scormus said:
How do I convert these girls who kiss for a couple of seconds into first date lays?
You LEAD the conversation from preliminary tingling to straight up SNL, depending on how she responds. ASK about vairous parts of her body and she will do the same. Ask her about tattoos or piercings. Focus on physical attributes so you get her mind thinking about your body. If she slips and says something raunchy, CALL HER OUT on it. That will reinforce her that she wants you, instead of the other way around. Women want to be s|uts, as long as you are able to bring it out of them. Sexual conversation is the key.
Talk how you switch from boxers to boxer briefs
Talk about your ass being sore from the gym
Compliment how her skirt brings out her hips
Caress her hand while saying something close to her ear
Lead her with her lower back and slowly slide it away
Examine her earrings while stroking the nape of her neck
Depending on the interaction and response, just give her a reason to be at her place or yours. I don't think there is any type of strategy here, if a chick wants to fvck you, she will. I've used her dog, my poker tutorials, a movie, a video game, signature drink, a park near my house - it really doesn't matter. If you think she is DTF, just lob any bullsh!t excuse, it doesn't matter what your reason is.
It's that raw instinct inside you that will tell you if she is ready to sleep with you. I've never had much resistance ending back at her place or mine, I should ask for it more often. Alcohol and the push/pull technique will give me a decent chance for a first date notch.
Scormus said:
So Doc Love has it wrong?
I remember him saying you go for the kiss to get the information.
Dating today is not what it was 5 years ago, let along 10. With Facebook, Instagram, etc. it allows women to have plenty of options and self-validation, they don't need to date and feel they can always do better. Kissing and making out lose their significance as women are becoming s|uttier. If you aren't on her top 3 fvck list, you might as well be an orbiter. Women will decide whether or not to fvck you within 5 minutes of meeting you. All you have to do is push the envelope and see what you can get away with. They have the attention span of a goldfish and chivalry is dead.