"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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kiss close situation

trd323

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Why is it emphasized to kiss close at a particular number of dates? I usually just go for the kiss whenever I feel like I want to or when I feel like its the right situation. I mean if anyone reads pook or AD, they emphasize that it should always be up to you. I am seeing 2 girls right now and when I finally kiss closed them it was our 4th or 5th date and I am still seeing them with a F-close 2 weeks after I kiss close.

So, did I just get lucky with these 2 girls or should I follow the rule where it says to kiss close based on the number of dates? kind of confused

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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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playboy_supreme

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that all up to you. if you want to wait 5 dates before you kiss and wait even longer before you f**k them then do so.
 

trd323

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playboy_supreme said:
that all up to you. if you want to wait 5 dates before you kiss and wait even longer before you f**k them then do so.
Its not really me waiting conciously for the x number of dates. if I feel like kissing her the firast date, then I do it, but if takes me till the 5th date to feel like kissing her then I do not make a big deal ot of it. Its funny because I have seen friends get really tense and nervous when they have this idea that its the 3rd date I MUST kiss her or else I lose her. I figure if a girl is willing to stop seeing you because you did not kiss, then she was not good enough for you.

I think it is a way of keeping your frame and not going into hers. I only do things when I WANT to do them. And I think this is the main point of POOK and AD.
 

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Read her body language, if you can buy a book or read the bible, you know when she is ready, as soon as you see it move in.

Ricard
 
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