"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Kino-ing too much

antidonjuan

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Sometimes I kino girsl with a bunch of girls around me. And i think I have kinoed too many women, I read about kino is good but are there any side effects of kinoing too much and others see your kinoing?
 

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Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You're doing too much or progressing with it too fast if it creeps her out.

Letting other girls see you kino is a type of social proof. One chick is comfortable with you touching her so why shouldn't others be? They'll assume it's just natural for you and part of your personality so they too will be more receptive to it.
 

antidonjuan

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Also, when I iniate kino to a girl, am I telling her that I want to have sex with her?
 

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Yes and no. It's not necessarily saying "I want sex" but people don't tend to touch others they're uninterested in either right? You are showing her that your comfortable touching attractive females (you'd be surprised how many guys aren't), and likewise you're getting her comfortable with your touch. Both are important if you want to progress sexually. Nothings more of a turn-off to girls than when a guy goes to make a move and she can sense his hesitancy.
 

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if you got game, there's no such thing as too much kino.

the only way they'll feel creeped out from you touching them too much is if they don't feel comfortable around you.

just be a fun, social guy, and touch away (non-creepily)
 

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antidonjuan

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Yea but publicly is it bad to escalate kino? Just touching them on the arm and pushing around doesn't seem to go any further. What is the next step?
 

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dude of course you're not gonna feel them up and **** in public, especially if youre still in high school (unless you're dating the girl, in which case thats fine and a fun way to get her warmed up).

touching, bumping, pushing, secret hand shakes, thumb wars, tickling, its all good man as long as you aren't being weird about it.

kino is something to be used in conjunction with socializing. if you're just touching and not talking about anything interesting or anything at ALL then, well, you're a dumbass.
 

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remember, one point of kino is that it is going to be mainly subconcious. the first act of kino should be stealthy (brush on arm/shoulder, hand on back to say hi without surprising her), and escalate slowly enough that she doesn't notice 'wow he's really touching me a lot, or touching parts i'm not comfortable with yet'.
be stealthy with your escalation, even if that means progressing slowly. unless she's a freaky chick and totally digs you ;)
 

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well, if u ask me, it first of all, depends on the girl how fast or far she can take it. secondly, when we actually speak of subtle kino, we are not talking of accidental kinos, the kino is supposed to do its job which only happens when she is open to ur touching her, u can test her if she is ready by palm readin technique, playful dancing, thumb wrestling, etc. if she si open to this and enjoying this, she is actually open to ur fvcking her. so first thing is getting the vibe and getting in her emotional personal space and then u should actually start REAL kino, before that some protective or playful kino. what is kino? kino is a way of getting two individuals close and comfortable together in a physical way, not necessarily sex. dont any of u put your arm around ur sister while walking together? thats an example of kino. though she knows u r treating her as a little brat but still that act brings u two closer. we are close to those persons physically who are in our best's and most preferred's list. thats what a kino actually does. kino means sex only when u actually combine the sexual tension with it. got me? good.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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