"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hyper2010

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Met a POF girl, who is a HB 8 on her best day, dmpkin body, freak in bed..even got an okayish personality

But has some baggage;

8 year old son having therapy, dad died 5 years ago
Having therapy herself over issues with her ex dying
Hasn't worked in 5 years
Lives on benefits
Caught her telling me a BIG lie recently
Epilepsy - she can never drive
Random bouts of horrific exzma
2 domineering older sisters who interviene
No savings/goals/ambitions
Tons of exes, ex fbs lurking in background etc

Should I consider a relationship on the grounds of her looks? Or is this suicide?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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LorenzoVonM

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No red flags that I can see. Put a ring on that shvt before someone else beats you to the punch.
 

pinkfl

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I don't like to say that anyone is undateable. But I don't know enough about you to determine if you're right for each other, relationshipwise.

If her ex died and was the father of her child, that sucks. Were they married though? Or just shacking up?

In any case, I just feel really bad for this girl. She really needs a good opportunity in life and I don't think she's going to get it.
 

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Yeah partly I feel sorry for her. Previously she had a ring of 5 or 6 guys on of as FBs who ere regularly smashing her, as she said she wanted to feel loved and respected
 

Peaks&Valleys

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LorenzoVonM said:
No red flags that I can see. Put a ring on that shvt before someone else beats you to the punch.
Ha!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hyper2010 said:
Yeah partly I feel sorry for her. Previously she had a ring of 5 or 6 guys on of as FBs who ere regularly smashing her, as she said she wanted to feel loved and respected

Law 10 from the great book 48 Laws of Power:

Infection: Avoid the unhappy & unlucky:

"You can die from someone else's misery - emotional states are as infectious as diseases. You may feel you are helping the drowning man but you are only precipitating your own disaster. The unfortunate sometimes draw misfortune on themselves; they will also draw it on you. Associate with the happy & fortunate instead."


Its one thing to get involved with a girl who you were unaware that has a boat load of issues. But to walk in to a situation like that is like swimming with sharks and being surprised at the outcome.

Work on yourself. Being a DJ is about bettering yourself, having options and most importantly realizing you cannot save anyone.











PIMP
 
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Red flags, bells, whistles, air horns, bull horns, loudspeakers, sirens, flashing strobes, a blimp, and your Momma pleading to you saying "Sonny, don't do it!"
 

foreverAFC

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jesus christ i cant believe what some guys are willing to put up with for some sex
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Sneevox

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foreverAFC said:
jesus christ i cant believe what some guys are willing to put up with for some sex
Right?

I mean... I can understand listening to a girl talk about one of her exes for a little bit while you drink her alcohol and then fvck her half an hour later... but that's probably the farthest I'll go.
 
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