"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Keeps talkin about boyfriend

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How do I handle a girl who keeps bringing up her boyfriend. When I first got her number she’s like “this is wrong” but then she gives me her number anyways. I called her at noon just now shes like “ I shouldn’t be talking to u cause of my man” but then “call me at 8pm” when her phone is free.

How to a handle that excuse if it comes up again. What’s the best response?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Blatant truth

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Possibilities:

1. Attention w-h-o-r-e, MOVE ON

or

2. You need to lower her ASD
 

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ASD???

Yah i got the attension ***** vibe. She was at MC ****s and it was like she Announced "I should be talking to you". She can't be older then 19, seems like a drama queen type too, i'll pass.
 

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ASD = Anti-Slut Defense.

The chick logic a woman (especially younger ones) will go through to relieve the guilt having sex too quickly with a man, assuming she has enough time to "think" about the consequences - a reaction which causes them to come up with objections or reasons that they shouldn't **** you in order to relieve their guilt of taking *responsibility* for doing something that society would often call "slutty". Post-sex ASD is usually boiled down to comments from her to her friends like "it just happened". It might be possible to consider waiting for a guy to make all the moves as an ASD. This forces HIM (in her mind) to take responsibility for the fact that she slept with you. "It just happened", "he wouldn't give up", etc. In reality, both people are responsible for their own actions.

http://www.fastseduction.com/acronyms.shtml
 

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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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If you think you could probably nail her, then go for it. You're not going to be able to tell if she's going to cheat on her boyfriend right away, so keep her on the side for a little bit and see what develops. If she just turns out to be teasing you, then move on.
 

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I say "come down to my area"


her:" maybe I shouldn't because i have a boyfriend"


I say??????????????????????????
 
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Just say, "I get the impression you really want to, would i be wrong in thinking this?". You'll get your answer, which will likely be she does want to. So encourage her, and make no big deal about it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Remember if she would cheat on her current boyfriend there's a good chance she'd cheat on you.
 

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i ran into a girl, fine as hell, probably the finest girl I have ever talked to, that was like that.

She actually came up to ME, she was a waitress at a bar... we exchanged numbers, I called her a couple of days later and she said she was going to come to my city (she lived 30 mins away) and we were going to kick it.

so she calls me and tells me a couple of days later she is going to she her Bf instead.. didn't even know she had a BF, but what the hell.. Okay, you do your thing.

So I say forget it.

then the next time I saw her, she ran up to me gave me a hug and a kis son the cheek, and bougt me a Corona.. She then told me how interested she was in coming over my apartment, which was right up the street. I'm like, whatever, you come if you want, but i'm not banking on it.

Does the same thing again... "i'm just not comfortable because my BF might not like that'

again, I didn't care because she did it before.

So I see her about a month later, and I"m drunk this time. So she comes up to me and does the same thing, giving the attention and I tell her I don't have time for **** Teasers... She gets offended by this and puts it on heavy. She not only told me she wanted to come over, she planned to st op by my house when she got off work, gave me some nice Kinko and everything... the whole time, it's like I was saying to myself.. dude, you know what'sg onig to happen.

And she did it again.. "I'm not sure my Bf would appriacate me coming over your house"

so I said **** it, and I ****ed her coworker, who I also invited over her house.

Once she found out about that she got mad, but I didn't give a damn, she had 3 strikes already... but damn she was fine
 

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Originally posted by backbreaker
i ran into a girl, fine as hell, probably the finest girl I have ever talked to, that was like that.

She actually came up to ME, she was a waitress at a bar... we exchanged numbers, I called her a couple of days later and she said she was going to come to my city (she lived 30 mins away) and we were going to kick it.

so she calls me and tells me a couple of days later she is going to she her Bf instead.. didn't even know she had a BF, but what the hell.. Okay, you do your thing.

So I say forget it.

then the next time I saw her, she ran up to me gave me a hug and a kis son the cheek, and bougt me a Corona.. She then told me how interested she was in coming over my apartment, which was right up the street. I'm like, whatever, you come if you want, but i'm not banking on it.

Does the same thing again... "i'm just not comfortable because my BF might not like that'

again, I didn't care because she did it before.

So I see her about a month later, and I"m drunk this time. So she comes up to me and does the same thing, giving the attention and I tell her I don't have time for **** Teasers... She gets offended by this and puts it on heavy. She not only told me she wanted to come over, she planned to st op by my house when she got off work, gave me some nice Kinko and everything... the whole time, it's like I was saying to myself.. dude, you know what'sg onig to happen.

And she did it again.. "I'm not sure my Bf would appriacate me coming over your house"

so I said **** it, and I ****ed her coworker, who I also invited over her house.

Once she found out about that she got mad, but I didn't give a damn, she had 3 strikes already... but damn she was fine
Oh man, I hate chicks like that. I used to think the ones that said they didn't have boyfriends, or had broken up with them were annoying, but apparently, this one is blatant with her screwed up bullsh*t. I wouldn't even bother with this one. Man, that's fawked.
 

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lol, I don't think you understand how fine this girl was...

I don't give out that compliment very easily.

This girl was so fine, that the fact that she was interested in me, pretty much gave me manifast desinty on every cute/hot waitress at the bar.

I actually went to HS with her, so I knew her already...she was voted the most beautiful person at our school then.

lol, of course I am kidding, I would never give a girl that many chances because she was "born with good genes", but she was good looking.

The thing abou tit, I never presued her.. she did everything.. my whole attitude was "look, if you want to, ,lets go, but i'm not crying or chasing you because I don't expect anything already"
 

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Originally posted by backbreaker
lol, I don't think you understand how fine this girl was...

I don't give out that compliment very easily.

This girl was so fine, that the fact that she was interested in me, pretty much gave me manifast desinty on every cute/hot waitress at the bar.

I actually went to HS with her, so I knew her already...she was voted the most beautiful person at our school then.

lol, of course I am kidding, I would never give a girl that many chances because she was "born with good genes", but she was good looking.

The thing abou tit, I never presued her.. she did everything.. my whole attitude was "look, if you want to, ,lets go, but i'm not crying or chasing you because I don't expect anything already"
She sounds like she was trying to mess with you, then had a tantrum when she realised she couldn't. She sounds like the type that obviously gets alot of attention, but because you weren't giving it, she tried all kinds of weird shyt.

In my opinion, I wouldn't even bother talking to this chick. I've had a similar situation with a girl that came onto me alot, even in the presence of her boyriend. You gotta watch out how much you piss them off though, because this one ended up resorting to spreading a whole lot of lies about me, that I kept hitting on her and other shyt, which she did deliberately so that it would get back to my girlfriend. She caused me a whole lot of trouble and damaged my reputation amongst some people who took her word for it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Yah I called her shes wack

Me: So why did you give me your number

Her: So you can talk to me

me: naw i dont do that

Attention *****,case closed
 

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Originally posted by Don Juanabbe
In my opinion, I wouldn't even bother talking to this chick. I've had a similar situation with a girl that came onto me alot, even in the presence of her boyriend. You gotta watch out how much you piss them off though, because this one ended up resorting to spreading a whole lot of lies about me, that I kept hitting on her and other shyt, which she did deliberately so that it would get back to my girlfriend. She caused me a whole lot of trouble and damaged my reputation amongst some people who took her word for it.
Is this the same girl you fawked over at the bar? The attention ho you played?

Btw, this kind of behavior is very typical of these girls.
 
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