Fly By Night
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...when they look away when you look at them.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Keeping eye contact is hard...
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
HalfAddict
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That is the time to approach, if you make solid eye contact and she quickly looks away it is usually a good sign. Looking down after eye contact is commonly considered a sign of submission.
http://changingminds.org/techniques/body/parts_body_language/eyes_body_language.htm
There is lots of material to be found on the subject. I make it a point to look everyone in the eye, or at least try, it is some of the greatest non-verbal communication you can master.
http://changingminds.org/techniques/body/parts_body_language/eyes_body_language.htm
There is lots of material to be found on the subject. I make it a point to look everyone in the eye, or at least try, it is some of the greatest non-verbal communication you can master.
Fly By Night
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Thanks for that info, normally when people look away, I look away as well assuming that they do not want to associate with me or feel as if it will be intimidating to them.
I was able to make an approach the other day, but it didn't go anywhere. After reflecting on it, I realized that I made almost no eye contact. Lesson learned, when I approach my next target, I will make firm (but not intimidating) eye contact with her.
I was able to make an approach the other day, but it didn't go anywhere. After reflecting on it, I realized that I made almost no eye contact. Lesson learned, when I approach my next target, I will make firm (but not intimidating) eye contact with her.
cablecow15
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Thats a very good sign
here is a very basic way to read eye contact
1 she looks down (this is like a dog rolling over , submission)
2 she looks up ( dont bother with this one , this is like her rolling her eyes at you)
3 looking to the side ( try to notice if her eyes were slightly up or slightly down as they cut to the side means slight interest or disinterest I usually continue eye contact and see if she gives me anymore signs)
4 multiple quick looks at you then breaking eye contact as soon as your eyes meet hers ( this is called the shy geisha like a shy little asian girl every time she sees you she cant help but look away good sign here )
keep solid eye contact , but dont try to burn a hole in her if shes not looking at you
(I did this once at a club and the girls friend noticed and said "you can just ask her to dance you dont have to keep staring at her" I was a little befuddled laughed it off and asked her for a dance , we danced and i got her number , but nothing came of it ) long story short keep bursts of strong eye contact , not hungry stares lol
here is a very basic way to read eye contact
1 she looks down (this is like a dog rolling over , submission)
2 she looks up ( dont bother with this one , this is like her rolling her eyes at you)
3 looking to the side ( try to notice if her eyes were slightly up or slightly down as they cut to the side means slight interest or disinterest I usually continue eye contact and see if she gives me anymore signs)
4 multiple quick looks at you then breaking eye contact as soon as your eyes meet hers ( this is called the shy geisha like a shy little asian girl every time she sees you she cant help but look away good sign here )
keep solid eye contact , but dont try to burn a hole in her if shes not looking at you
(I did this once at a club and the girls friend noticed and said "you can just ask her to dance you dont have to keep staring at her" I was a little befuddled laughed it off and asked her for a dance , we danced and i got her number , but nothing came of it ) long story short keep bursts of strong eye contact , not hungry stares lol
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
HalfAddict
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That is the thing Fly, it is a little intimidating and there is nothing wrong with that. Like Cable said, just don't burn a hole in them.
I like to throw a sly smile and a little wave in myself, sometimes a wink even..
I like to throw a sly smile and a little wave in myself, sometimes a wink even..
Demonicale
Senior Don Juan
I'm alway's 100% confident in doing it in clubs,bars or a saturday night.
But in the hospital where i work we have looong corridoors, and i can't keep it up as i'm walking down them as i think it's alil creepy lol.
But if i shy away it's bad too
But in the hospital where i work we have looong corridoors, and i can't keep it up as i'm walking down them as i think it's alil creepy lol.
But if i shy away it's bad too
bcolon
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I work at a hospital too. And I know what your talking about. It's very awkward at first when you see someone you find attractive walking towards you from afar. They look at you and then when you two get close that's when for me it's either a quick "Hello" or "Good Morning". Pretty much all the girls will be very receptive and respond with a smile.Demonicale said:I'm alway's 100% confident in doing it in clubs,bars or a saturday night.
But in the hospital where i work we have looong corridoors, and i can't keep it up as i'm walking down them as i think it's alil creepy lol.
But if i shy away it's bad too
Keep at it. I think honestly working at the hospital is best for people who deal with social anxiety or have a hard time approaching people. Because your pretty much forced to there.
Demonicale
Senior Don Juan
Actually it's so simple i can't believe i did'nt think of that, ok well i'll give it a shot and see what happens .. haha thanksbcolon said: