"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Keep persisting after being rejected

t510

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Has this ever worked? Or is walking away the best option here? It's like a urge I always get to go back and try again and it almost always never works. Walking away on the other hand does work - I forget about them and most the time, they contact me - usually about 6 months later.

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Dust 2 Dust

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Persisting with a woman who's giving you IOD's has never worked for me. If you cut contact she may come back and give you a desperation lay if she's bored and has no other options, but that's about as far as it goes.

Also, anytime a woman contacts you out of the blue after several months of NC it is always because she's seeking an ego boost after getting dumped by her #1 guy. If you respond you fail. Never give them a second chance to reject you. One rejection, per woman, per lifetime.
 

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This reminded me of a relationship I had back in the 7th grade. I think it depends how you do it...? I mean on one side it will show the girl that she really means something to you, if your doing it correctly, but don't go to the point of just begging her. If she rejects, give it a while, then call her again and see if she changed her mind. If the answer is still no, she can go to hell.
 

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Never worked in the past; dont bother with it in the present. What I learned - and didnt realize at the time - is that bad-awful-heartless women exist out there, and theyre usually skanky-hot. Whenever this happened - the girl was NEVER keeping me around for non-selfish reasons. The insecure / low self esteem / fake hotties, especially LOVED the attention and ego boost. They needed it, even. It was so narcissistic that they could NOT engage with you in any way - unless they knew you wanted them. They needed that reassurance, and would chase you to get you to chase them. Teasing and flirting was the norm. It was a sick game, but they only cared about themselves, and got off on the power of rejecting others - after luring them into being wanted in the first place! These girls were very abusive and manipulative in general. The bad girls. Very bitter and angry, and out to get revenge and hurt others. Also: zero self-esteem and a huge ego.

Beyond that, keeping you around as a back-up plan, for sexual reasons, or using you in other ways... Some were so selfish and entitled that they would flat-out lie to your face about their intentions to keep you focused solely on them. The SO without benefits, if you will. Horrible.

But, no girl EVER changed their mind or interest level upon coming back post-rejection. They just wanted to make sure they got their way; that their interests were so secure; everyone was focused on them; etc - only to ***** and cry and play the victim when they couldnt control, manipulate, use, and play everyone. **** that ****.

This was ALWAYS the case with the troublesome types. It was their whole game; they were expert manipulators, and knew the game. It was always about control, options, etc. Never genuine; they werent afraid, unsure, distrusting, or not ready - which jerks are reknowned for having bull**** excuses for everything - only to act like spoiled children when they cant get their way.

Good girls never did this ****. Only the players and bad girls with selfish interests and ulterior motives. Some would even keep up the lying for months, and act like they were courting you, and you werent good enough / its your fault they only wanted sex - when it was their intentions all along.

But, lying, manipulative *******s are easy to spot these days, and follow similar behavioral patterns.

****, Im ranting.

TLDRFU: No. :cuss:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Keep in mind that most people will also do as theyre allowed to, and will gladly reap any benefits given to them, AND will come to expect whatever is the norm - from you to them. This is why you DONT allow people to take advantage of you - by NOT putting yourself in a position where it can happen. RULE #1, GENTS.

Even if she's not a selfish, evil, manipulative harpy - IF you keep pursuing and giving attention / doing favors come post-rejection - she WILL come to accept this kind of treatment, and EXPECT you to be her SO without benefits. Getting the milk without ****ing the cow - only to complain when the cow runs away, screaming "RAPE!", and all that. Same thing.

I hate cows. :box:
 

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Don't do it, man. That's like crack for a recovering junkie! You gotta resist, let it go, and like PairPlusRoyalFlush said, respect yourself.

Imagine the lower-than-ṣhit-on-a-sidewalk feeling when she turns you down.....AGAIN. Got your head on straight, now?
 

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Thanks for response. The swingers clip was awesome too. I got to see that movie.
Time to move on. Have another date scheduled this week iwth a new girl
 

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Nothing is wrong with persistence. Persistence out of desperation on the other hand is a different story. I personally suffer from excessive stubbornness and inability to let go of the past, it seems that being carefree and just letting it all go to hell is a lot healthier.
 
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