"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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t510

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Has this ever worked? Or is walking away the best option here? It's like a urge I always get to go back and try again and it almost always never works. Walking away on the other hand does work - I forget about them and most the time, they contact me - usually about 6 months later.

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Dust 2 Dust

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Persisting with a woman who's giving you IOD's has never worked for me. If you cut contact she may come back and give you a desperation lay if she's bored and has no other options, but that's about as far as it goes.

Also, anytime a woman contacts you out of the blue after several months of NC it is always because she's seeking an ego boost after getting dumped by her #1 guy. If you respond you fail. Never give them a second chance to reject you. One rejection, per woman, per lifetime.
 

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This reminded me of a relationship I had back in the 7th grade. I think it depends how you do it...? I mean on one side it will show the girl that she really means something to you, if your doing it correctly, but don't go to the point of just begging her. If she rejects, give it a while, then call her again and see if she changed her mind. If the answer is still no, she can go to hell.
 

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Never worked in the past; dont bother with it in the present. What I learned - and didnt realize at the time - is that bad-awful-heartless women exist out there, and theyre usually skanky-hot. Whenever this happened - the girl was NEVER keeping me around for non-selfish reasons. The insecure / low self esteem / fake hotties, especially LOVED the attention and ego boost. They needed it, even. It was so narcissistic that they could NOT engage with you in any way - unless they knew you wanted them. They needed that reassurance, and would chase you to get you to chase them. Teasing and flirting was the norm. It was a sick game, but they only cared about themselves, and got off on the power of rejecting others - after luring them into being wanted in the first place! These girls were very abusive and manipulative in general. The bad girls. Very bitter and angry, and out to get revenge and hurt others. Also: zero self-esteem and a huge ego.

Beyond that, keeping you around as a back-up plan, for sexual reasons, or using you in other ways... Some were so selfish and entitled that they would flat-out lie to your face about their intentions to keep you focused solely on them. The SO without benefits, if you will. Horrible.

But, no girl EVER changed their mind or interest level upon coming back post-rejection. They just wanted to make sure they got their way; that their interests were so secure; everyone was focused on them; etc - only to ***** and cry and play the victim when they couldnt control, manipulate, use, and play everyone. **** that ****.

This was ALWAYS the case with the troublesome types. It was their whole game; they were expert manipulators, and knew the game. It was always about control, options, etc. Never genuine; they werent afraid, unsure, distrusting, or not ready - which jerks are reknowned for having bull**** excuses for everything - only to act like spoiled children when they cant get their way.

Good girls never did this ****. Only the players and bad girls with selfish interests and ulterior motives. Some would even keep up the lying for months, and act like they were courting you, and you werent good enough / its your fault they only wanted sex - when it was their intentions all along.

But, lying, manipulative *******s are easy to spot these days, and follow similar behavioral patterns.

****, Im ranting.

TLDRFU: No. :cuss:
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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floydb25

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Keep in mind that most people will also do as theyre allowed to, and will gladly reap any benefits given to them, AND will come to expect whatever is the norm - from you to them. This is why you DONT allow people to take advantage of you - by NOT putting yourself in a position where it can happen. RULE #1, GENTS.

Even if she's not a selfish, evil, manipulative harpy - IF you keep pursuing and giving attention / doing favors come post-rejection - she WILL come to accept this kind of treatment, and EXPECT you to be her SO without benefits. Getting the milk without ****ing the cow - only to complain when the cow runs away, screaming "RAPE!", and all that. Same thing.

I hate cows. :box:
 

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Don't do it, man. That's like crack for a recovering junkie! You gotta resist, let it go, and like PairPlusRoyalFlush said, respect yourself.

Imagine the lower-than-ṣhit-on-a-sidewalk feeling when she turns you down.....AGAIN. Got your head on straight, now?
 

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Thanks for response. The swingers clip was awesome too. I got to see that movie.
Time to move on. Have another date scheduled this week iwth a new girl
 

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Nothing is wrong with persistence. Persistence out of desperation on the other hand is a different story. I personally suffer from excessive stubbornness and inability to let go of the past, it seems that being carefree and just letting it all go to hell is a lot healthier.
 
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