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That being said i will discuss the "black magic" part of it.

In my life my women were loyal and couldnt get enough of me were when i was an unconstrained and uncontrolled man. I could cheat lightly. Be too selfish watching football and forgetting anniversaries and the such. Hanging out with the fellas, etc.

In years i was a more mindful and loving man I was cheated upon. Diring these yrs i was more mindful, payed more attention more aware of her needs. During these yrs they would eventually cheat and pull away. Because its so predictable. And the "yin/yang" was effed up.
I will just repeat what you are saying with this post and we all know is really the truth. Women don't desire men who pander to them. Women don't desire men they can control.

No I completely agree, I don't think I'm safe either lol. There's always someone that a woman can perceive to be better then you, or higher value, no matter who you are. We all just have to take advantage when it's our turn
And if you don't think she has access to higher value guys than you you need to fvcking think again.... a woman who you perceive to be less attractive than yourself can easily be nailed by guys who are significantly more attractive than you are. The abundance women have in 2020 with not just men (and orbiters of course), but high value men - hot Chads and exciting tatted up bad boys, high status guys - is utterly unprecedented in history. It's revolutionary. It's probably almost incomprehensible to someone who isn't thoroughly black pilled from seeing it themselves, that's why you have guys thinking that only women who are conventionally attractive can do it. I'm telling you, they can ALL do it if they want to.
 
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That being said i will discuss the "black magic" part of it.

In my life my women were loyal and couldnt get enough of me were when i was an unconstrained and uncontrolled man. I could cheat lightly. Be too selfish watching football and forgetting anniversaries and the such. Hanging out with the fellas, etc.

In years i was a more mindful and loving man I was cheated upon. Diring these yrs i was more mindful, payed more attention more aware of her needs. During these yrs they would eventually cheat and pull away. Because its so predictable. And the "yin/yang" was effed up.
There's a certain type too, that really respond to this more then others. It's mostly the daddy issue ones, but once you figure it out, they're easy. They love being ignored. I've even had one tell me that she likes guys who ignore her
 

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And if you don't think she has access to higher value guys than you you need to fvcking think again.... a woman who you perceive to be less attractive than yourself can easily be nailed by guys who are significantly more attractive than you are. it if they want to.
Hell yea, especially on OLD, they can really level up. I've smashed chicks who I thought to be beneath me, and there's been times when I would go to their house and see that they had a really cute beautiful daughter. I'm sitting there looking at the daughter like wtf... how did THIS chick, have such a beautiful baby girl.... I'm like whoa, this woman got some dude way out of her league to get her pregnant
 

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Do you think ALL BF and husband started out as lame? Smh.

There are some outstanding men cheated upon. The women are addicted to lying and cheating.
Don’t ever forget this truth. Intuitively smart goodstuff.
Some of the best men in this world “alpha” or “beta”, if those words fit, have been cheated on and always will be. Forever and ever.

A man who thinks it’s because other boyfriends or husbands are weak, will totally fail. Why? Because they still don’t understand the female.
 

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IMO, alot of those BF and husband started out as lame with women. They could be successful in every other area but are lame with women. These women are addicted to validation. They are not even LTR material to begin with.

Look no further than our sports stars and celebrities paying 100k a month in alimony/child support to former porn stars/strip club sloots/instagram h0es.

80% of guys are completely stuck in the matrix of romance and have an inability to think rationally when it comes to women. For most women, romance is merely a business decision.

This is what it means to be stuck in the matrix. First comes the money. Then comes the power. Then comes the respect. Then comes the instagram h0e for a wife, then comes the divorce rape. And now she's fvcking the pool boy and buying him rolex watches with her ex husband's money.

There is a major blindspot even in the most outstanding men in society. All because of the social construct of romance and the delusions that comes with it.
Absolutely. It’s all fake. A nightmare illusion that persists.
 

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A boyfriend or husband is ALWAYS in second position to her secret fuks and sucks. I don’t care who he is.

Spaz said something a long time ago that fits here. The mere fact that a man enters into monogamy with a woman, will automatically lower him in her eyes. It’s an automatic mental default. You are no longer the fuk boy but now the cuck. Her entire thinking switches. You agreed to serve her.
 

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Don’t ever forget this truth. Intuitively smart goodstuff.
Some of the best men in this world “alpha” or “beta”, if those words fit, have been cheated on and always will be. Forever and ever.

A man who thinks it’s because other boyfriends or husbands are weak, will totally fail. Why? Because they still don’t understand the female.
Might as well live like Hugh Hefner "hot swappable". Plug and play when it becomes an issue.
 

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There are most likely guys reading some of this that can’t confront it. It would smash every dream they have because every dream they have has an amazing woman.

It would mean that all that living up to this point was a lie. Wasted time. Futile efforts.
They cannot change how they view things. It’s just too much space to leap.
 

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What do you mean by "real" romance? Everything is a personal decision. Are you saying there is some outside power that governs people's mating decisions?
I should have put "real" in quotation marks. What I meant by that was how it's perceived, not that there's an outside power. Really I mean that a woman is to be led, this is what creates romantic feelings for her. Just another way of saying they say one thing and do another...nothing new under the sun, really. Whenever I think I've stumbled upon something novel it's usually the same old shyt.
 

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A boyfriend or husband is ALWAYS in second position to her secret fuks and sucks. I don’t care who he is.

Spaz said something a long time ago that fits here. The mere fact that a man enters into monogamy with a woman, will automatically lower him in her eyes. It’s an automatic mental default. You are no longer the fuk boy but now the cuck. Her entire thinking switches. You agreed to serve her.
So its a nation of brainwashed and married cucks, blindly keeping our side pieces and sex toys maintained and emotionally supported. What a matrix.
 

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So its a nation of brainwashed and married cucks, blindly keeping our side pieces and sex toys maintained and emotionally supported. What a matrix.
It’s rather horrific if a man is floating on the feminine cloud. His absolute worst possible nightmare.
 

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Well, as the OP I should make an update to my own thread. I gave the GF the boot this morning over new developments.

Started with a fight last night. First off, in "Anything Else" I posted a couple days ago that I may be moving to Montana later this year for a job. When the opportunity came up last week I told the GF about it and the first thing she said was "You know I want to move somewhere warm and Montana is cold!". I said well "I like Montana and if I get the job the bus is leaving with or without you". She called me selfish. I tried to talk to her with logic and reason but she ignored, kept calling me selfish and not thinking of her.

So this morning I said "See you later love you" before leaving for work. She said "Bye!" I said "No love for me today?". She said "No because you are going to another State anyway and you dont care about me or my feelings". I said "OK, I guess we are roommates now then, that works for me". I left. She texted me 60 seconds later and blasted me with a bunch of emo stuff. I said "You might as well save it cuz with the lie you told me the other day and calling me selfish and then your attitude when I left for work today, we are done. ". SHe went to her son's house. Coming to get her stuff on Sunday. Nnnnnext...
 

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Well, as the OP I should make an update to my own thread. I gave the GF the boot this morning over new developments.

Started with a fight last night. First off, in "Anything Else" I posted a couple days ago that I may be moving to Montana later this year for a job. When the opportunity came up last week I told the GF about it and the first thing she said was "You know I want to move somewhere warm and Montana is cold!". I said well "I like Montana and if I get the job the bus is leaving with or without you". She called me selfish. I tried to talk to her with logic and reason but she ignored, kept calling me selfish and not thinking of her.

So this morning I said "See you later love you" before leaving for work. She said "Bye!" I said "No love for me today?". She said "No because you are going to another State anyway and you dont care about me or my feelings". I said "OK, I guess we are roommates now then, that works for me". I left. She texted me 60 seconds later and blasted me with a bunch of emo stuff. I said "You might as well save it cuz with the lie you told me the other day and calling me selfish and then your attitude when I left for work today, we are done. ". SHe went to her son's house. Coming to get her stuff on Sunday. Nnnnnext...
A man's destiny is to surpass his limitations.

Deny that fate and you will regret it as time passes by.

If Montana brings you closer to that destiny then do so without apology.

Move in that direction.
 

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Well, as the OP I should make an update to my own thread. I gave the GF the boot this morning over new developments.

Started with a fight last night. First off, in "Anything Else" I posted a couple days ago that I may be moving to Montana later this year for a job. When the opportunity came up last week I told the GF about it and the first thing she said was "You know I want to move somewhere warm and Montana is cold!". I said well "I like Montana and if I get the job the bus is leaving with or without you". She called me selfish. I tried to talk to her with logic and reason but she ignored, kept calling me selfish and not thinking of her.

So this morning I said "See you later love you" before leaving for work. She said "Bye!" I said "No love for me today?". She said "No because you are going to another State anyway and you dont care about me or my feelings". I said "OK, I guess we are roommates now then, that works for me". I left. She texted me 60 seconds later and blasted me with a bunch of emo stuff. I said "You might as well save it cuz with the lie you told me the other day and calling me selfish and then your attitude when I left for work today, we are done. ". SHe went to her son's house. Coming to get her stuff on Sunday. Nnnnnext...
RIP. It was coming anyway . Be hard for next few weeks but after that you won’t give a sh1te. I’m prepping for a potential breakup myself so I feel for ya.
 

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Well, as the OP I should make an update to my own thread. I gave the GF the boot this morning over new developments.

Started with a fight last night. First off, in "Anything Else" I posted a couple days ago that I may be moving to Montana later this year for a job. When the opportunity came up last week I told the GF about it and the first thing she said was "You know I want to move somewhere warm and Montana is cold!". I said well "I like Montana and if I get the job the bus is leaving with or without you". She called me selfish. I tried to talk to her with logic and reason but she ignored, kept calling me selfish and not thinking of her.

So this morning I said "See you later love you" before leaving for work. She said "Bye!" I said "No love for me today?". She said "No because you are going to another State anyway and you dont care about me or my feelings". I said "OK, I guess we are roommates now then, that works for me". I left. She texted me 60 seconds later and blasted me with a bunch of emo stuff. I said "You might as well save it cuz with the lie you told me the other day and calling me selfish and then your attitude when I left for work today, we are done. ". SHe went to her son's house. Coming to get her stuff on Sunday. Nnnnnext...
You have been here a long time. You should know better then trying to use logic and reason on a woman. She sounds very selfish and untrustworthy. You did the right thing by ending it. She might possibly try to fix things with you, so be prepared for that.

My dad says that if your woman really loves you, she will follow you anywhere. This girl isn't willing to move to Montana with you, so she doesn't really love you.
 

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You have been here a long time. You should know better then trying to use logic and reason on a woman. She sounds very selfish and untrustworthy. You did the right thing by ending it. She might possibly try to fix things with you, so be prepared for that.

My dad says that if your woman really loves you, she will follow you anywhere. This girl isn't willing to move to Montana with you, so she doesn't really love you.
But he will get over it fast since he will be in surroundings. It’s easier to forget if you go somewhere new.
One thing I like to do post break up is project myself to a time I broken up before and search my feelings now. If you do that you find you won’t care for the chick anymore .
 

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You have been here a long time. You should know better then trying to use logic and reason on a woman. She sounds very selfish and untrustworthy. You did the right thing by ending it. She might possibly try to fix things with you, so be prepared for that.

My dad says that if your woman really loves you, she will follow you anywhere. This girl isn't willing to move to Montana with you, so she doesn't really love you.
Logic and reason are my default even tho yeah women rarely understand it.

That was my EXACT conclusion re not coming to Montana and weighed into my decision too.
 

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So this morning I said "See you later love you" before leaving for work. She said "Bye!" I said "No love for me today?". She said "No because you are going to another State anyway and you dont care about me or my feelings". I said "OK, I guess we are roommates now then, that works for me". I left. She texted me 60 seconds later and blasted me with a bunch of emo stuff. I said "You might as well save it cuz with the lie you told me the other day and calling me selfish and then your attitude when I left for work today, we are done. ". SHe went to her son's house. Coming to get her stuff on Sunday. Nnnnnext...
Damn. Sorry to hear that you broke. It’s never easy no matter the circumstances.

The ease in which she agreed to the break up is indicative to some of your gut feelings though.
No fight for saving the relationship on her end, by the sound of things noted above.

Goes to show that our internal voice is to be deeply trusted. She broke a cardinal value of yours and your higher self would not let that go; rightly so.
 

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Sorry...... not an easy thing.
But stick to your gun, getting dump is a big ego hit. she will probably try to fix things.

I think like @Young OG that using logic while communicating your possible move did not give you the best result. I agree as well that it was going the break up road and that you are probably better off.


In situation like this when you communicate that possible move you need to give her the news in a way that make her feel as good as possible, she need to feel that she is included in the decision even if your decision as already been taken and even if she is not a factor.
 
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