"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Jumping in the deep end

Mr_rogers

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Hey everyone, just a quick question.

I have an opportunity to go to a couple bars with a couple good friends of mine who are a lot better with social stuff than I am. So I ask has anyone who was still fairly new to the DJ game ever tried just putting their fears aside and jumping right into the social scene by, say, going to a club, or a bar with friends looking to meet women? If so, is it a good way to learn, or is it just setting yourself up for failure?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Pathgen

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If you want to get better at social situations you need to isolate yourself in a cave and meditate. No friends or women just you and some candles. So i think your answer is no don't go to bars with friends to meet girls >.>
 

Mr_rogers

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Pathgen said:
If you want to get better at social situations you need to isolate yourself in a cave and meditate. No friends or women just you and some candles. So i think your answer is no don't go to bars with friends to meet girls >.>
Heh. Point taken. Thanks!
 

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Drink.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Mr_rogers

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oakraiderz2 said:
It takes about half a beer to get me feeling tipsy because the alcohol reacts with a medication I take. Not to mention that I sorta become a douchebag when I'm drunk... but we'll see.
 

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Jumping in the deep end is the way to go. Unless you have heart problems and the water is freezing cold. Then your heart might stop and you could die. The lesson is: Go to a club with your friends and observe them. The best way to learn is to observe people who are good at it. However the women there aren't usually relationship material if that's what you're looking for. Oh and exercise for a healthy heart.
 
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