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I have had a great experience with Mexican women and met plenty of chill ones. Cuban women are alright as well.

Puerto Rican women are ratchet in most cases from my experience.

Colombian and Venezuelan women have actually been the worst in my experience and actually quite stuck up. They seem to let the Latina thing get way in their heads.

Argentine women are snobby but the quieter Latinas.
My bad Latina dating story from last night was a US born Latina with parents from a South American country. In the US Southwest, the vast majority of women have Mexican ancestry. In Dallas, it's far less common to encounter a Hispanic/Latina with non-Mexican ancestry.

Colombian and Venezuelan women have the reputation of being some of the best looking Latinas.

Women with Cuban ancestry are all over Miami. Women with Puerto Rican ancestry are all over New York City. I'd think those would be your 2 most common Hispanic subgroup interactions. You haven't lived in an area where women of Mexican ancestry dominate the Hispanic/Latina scene.

Italian women....They're about 6% of the metro population here (Metro Phoenix). The big issue is, and this isn't one that affects you or anyone that does daygame, but on the dating sites and swipe apps here they are a good 1/4 to 1/3 of the 35+ user base, which is an overrepresentation of about 5X.
It's a common occurrence for some trait to be overrepresented on dating websites/swipe apps. Historically, female lawyers are way overrepresented on swipe apps relative to the population. This is the first time I'm hearing of Italian-American overrepresentation on dating apps.

When I was in Phoenix, I was under 30 and primarily doing bar approaching in Old Town Scottsdale. I had yet to become a big practitioner of daygame when I was in Phoenix. If I had to daygame Phoenix, I would be daygaming Piestewa, Camelback, and Papago big time. From mid-April to mid-October, you'd have to daygame from sunrise until about 8:30 AM. After that, it would likely be too hot. Mid-October to mid-April is the time to outdoor daygame so we're about to start good daygaming season in Phoenix.

There are some good in-person approaching options for the 35+ crowd in North Scottsdale and certain parts of Phoenix itself. If I wanted a 35+ woman, I could daygame at Kierland, Biltmore Fashion Park, or Scottsdale Fashion Square. Scottsdale Fashion Square is good for all 20s-40s age ranges. Grocery stores in North Phoenix/North Scottsdale would work for 35+. There are some bar options in North Scottsdale and Phoenix for the 35+.

Actual Mexican women in Mexico tend to be sweet and dress on the sexy side. The ones in America are less so (especially if they're whitewashed) imo it's due to the jealousy factor I mentioned above.
Mexican women in Mexico are the best Mexican option. Women in the US who were raised in Mexico are often better than women born/raised in the USA with Mexican ancestry.
 
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The only Italian American woman I’ve been with must have been from northern Italy because she was white AF lol.
 
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so the forecasters are all agreeing that this hurricane is going to land in Florida. The exact landfall is still up in the air.
 

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Italian women can look anywhere from Germanic to Half White/Latina to Arabic to even Eurasian. You can kind of tell from the skin tone and the eyes and the hair, but the main thing is the vibe and how they present themselves. There seems to be two major flavors, the common NYC area type and the Northern Italian, classy type. Both groups are prone to undeserved narcissism and have either a difficult vibe, an annoying/obnoxious vibe, or both.

The issue is pretty simple to me. Italy is one of the five G.O.A.T countries (along with England, Germany, France and America) in terms of historical inventions and world cultural contributions. However, they are the least "white" looking of all of the citizens. Hence the distancing and distaste towards minorities, the jealousy towards Northern Europeans, and the sense of competition with the Jews (who are of similar looks and capability).
In the Italian household, there is a mentality that women can never be wrong. Amongst Italian Americans, this is amplified. Girls must be worshiped and treated like queens at all costs. To make matters even worse, Italian men are usually SIMPs. I am not even sure why their game gets hyped up but most of them range from total SIMPs to hardcore bitter red pill types that get angered easily. This is why you see the behavior you see in Italian American women, it's because they have been proactively taught that they can do no wrong and the culture protects crappy women.

As much as the heritage matters, the environment matters more. I have met a lot of cool Italian girls from places like CA, Maryland, New England, and even South Carolina. The common theme is that they were around a ton of other cultures and some of the toxic traits got weeded out. However, Long Island and places like Bergen County are culturally toxic h3llholes and if you want some true Italian trash, you will find it there. There is nothing more ratchet, toxic, trashy, narcissistic, and arrogant than an Italian chick from Long Island. They are trailer trash with botox and makeup.

From the way @SW15 has described Arizona, I won't be shocked if that place is bringing out the toxic traits in the women you mentioned.

From my observations these days, there are a lot of Italian and Italian descent women who love minorities, especially black dudes. Sure they might be racist and say a lot of racist things but when the lights are off, they are....well....making more Sicilians to say the least. It isn't just black dudes either, they sleep with all kinds of minorities when they are away from home.

It is quite common for Italian chicks from racist dumps like Long Island to split their legs for a black guy as soon as they go away to college. Most of the dudes have an inferiority complex towards black culture since blacks are better at sports and guido culture is obsessed with sports.
 

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My bad Latina dating story from last night was a US born Latina with parents from a South American country. In the US Southwest, the vast majority of women have Mexican ancestry. In Dallas, it's far less common to encounter a Hispanic/Latina with non-Mexican ancestry.

Colombian and Venezuelan women have the reputation of being some of the best looking Latinas.

Women with Cuban ancestry are all over Miami. Women with Puerto Rican ancestry are all over New York City. I'd think those would be your 2 most common Hispanic subgroup interactions. You haven't lived in an area where women of Mexican ancestry dominate the Hispanic/Latina scene.
How is it like in areas where Mexican women dominate the Latina scene? So far my experience with them has been some of the best out there.

Most common Latina interaction for me has been Puerto Rican, super ratchet and trashy IMO, not as bad as Italian American women from NY but almost as bad.
 

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I went 6 month without fapping. Joe rogan was questioned what his views were on fapping. He said something along the lines of its not good, but if you don't fap you might make decisions you wouldn't if you had fapped. In other words....the more full of *** you are, the more likely you are to unload all that spunk onto some women therefore catching STD.

So in recent times..I've waited a few weeks then fapped. Just recently got porn channels.....I've hardly watched porn in my life.
I've never came so many times in quick succession as I have when I recently watched porn
 

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I went 6 month without fapping. Joe rogan was questioned what his views were on fapping. He said something along the lines of its not good, but if you don't fap you might make decisions you wouldn't if you had fapped. In other words....the more full of *** you are, the more likely you are to unload all that spunk onto some women therefore catching STD.

So in recent times..I've waited a few weeks then fapped. Just recently got porn channels.....I've hardly watched porn in my life.
I've never came so many times in quick succession as I have when I recently watched porn
When did you feel the most active and energetic/driven to chase women in terms of nofap?

Was it week 2 or what?
 
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How is it like in areas where Mexican women dominate the Latina scene? So far my experience with them has been some of the best out there.

Most common Latina interaction for me has been Puerto Rican, super ratchet and trashy IMO, not as bad as Italian American women from NY but almost as bad.
I consider Puerto Rican and Dominican women in the black female category, NGL
 

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When did you feel the most active and energetic/driven to chase women in terms of nofap?

Was it week 2 or what?
The longer it goes...the more of an animal I become. Women look more attractive. That's what Joe rogan is getting at...the longer without fapping...the more likely to shag a fat bird.

The longer I go without fapping, the more masculine I seem to feel, but it's more difficult to concentrate on studies and such. When you finally do fap...it's a release...like a balloon being deflated.
 

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That is a recent thread
 

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I have found Dominican women to be far more chill and cool. Puerto Rican women on the other hand are crazier. I notice that the whiter looking Puerto Rican girls seem to also be the craziest.
Puerto Rican women are generally whiter than the rest of the Caribbean and it's the only island that's part of the U.S. So back in PR they have a sense of superiority, but when they get to the U.S. it's different. They have the rug pulled out from under them, and many of them are in NYC where they've got to compete (at least indirectly) with Manhattan women. Insanity ensues.

They are definitely my least favorite type of Latina.
 

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How is it like in areas where Mexican women dominate the Latina scene? So far my experience with them has been some of the best out there.
It depends. In Dallas and Phoenix, I've tended to go to places in-person where there are more White women than Hispanic women. So even though Dallas and Phoenix have substantial Hispanic populations and the Hispanic populations are mainly women of Mexican ancestries. I've had far more interactions with White women than Hispanics of Mexican ancestry in both cities.

In both cities, I have found that it took effort to get into the Hispanic/Latino circles. In Dallas, I have been to a salsa dancing venue a few times over the years. That's the only way I've met Latinas reliably here. I've not been to Fiesta Market here. Fiesta Market is the big Hispanic grocery store in the area. In Phoenix, the big Hispanic grocer doesn't have a Spanish sounding name. The big Hispanic grocer there is Food City, which is owned by Bashas, a regional grocer in Arizona. Fiesta Market or Food City would be grocery stores where you would approach Latinas, likely in Spanish. I have been inside of a Food City location before and I found it to be ghetto.

However, Long Island and places like Bergen County are culturally toxic h3llholes and if you want some true Italian trash, you will find it there. There is nothing more ratchet, toxic, trashy, narcissistic, and arrogant than an Italian chick from Long Island. They are trailer trash with botox and makeup.
an inferiority complex towards black culture since blacks are better at sports and guido culture is obsessed with sports.
I can buy that about Long Island, but Bergen County in New Jersey? I can't buy that. Bergen and Morris Counties in New Jersey are the most affluent areas.

Italian women...They're about 6% of the metro population here. The big issue is, and this isn't one that affects you or anyone that does daygame, but on the dating sites and swipe apps here they are a good 1/4 to 1/3 of the 35+ user base, which is an overrepresentation of about 5X. I've had some good experiences with them in the past, but here they tend to have shoulder chips and attitudes. I've had so many bad experiences here that I've had to develop a fine-tuned Italiana radar.
It's a common occurrence for some trait to be overrepresented on dating websites/swipe apps. Historically, female lawyers are way overrepresented on swipe apps relative to the population. This is the first time I'm hearing of Italian-American overrepresentation on dating apps.
The more I think about this, the more I'm amazed by this. Among ethnic Whites, I would think there'd be more Jews 35+ overrepresented than Italian-Americans in Metro Phoenix.

guido culture is obsessed with sports.
Gym Tan Laundry (GTL) is big with that population. Italian-American guys want big muscles to impress Italian-American females so that they will get some vag from them.
 

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I have been inside of a Food City location before and I found it to be ghetto.


The more I think about this, the more I'm amazed by this. Among ethnic Whites, I would think there'd be more Jews 35+ overrepresented than Italian-Americans in Metro Phoenix.

I suspect a lot of the Jewish women may be on Jewish sites/apps

It's not surprising to me though, assuming what Jesse is saying is true (and it rings true to me) about Italian women being princesses within their own families. A common complaint of newcomer women to the Valley is having to deal with the local male expectations due to the competition. If these women have a princess complex but are having to deal with heavier competition on the female side than on the male side, it would follow that their expectations and desires are not being met. Therefore no one available is good enough and they're always on the apps, expressing their frustration and disappointment. A common move of theirs is trying to thirst-trap guys with T&A shots on Tinder (as an example) while also hiding behind the presumption of a casual relationship due to the platform. But they're all wanting LTR's, with most of them being reluctant to state it explicitly (most women seeking LTR's on Tinder will at least mention it in their bio).
 

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I mean the key thing for me are the freckles man, the freaking freckles. Too many women try to hide them but I am a sucker for the freckles. Something about that look that has me raging. I always notice that these women are closet freaks, especially the soft spoken ones. Had one back in NYC who gave me the best BJ of my life even though initially she came off as very shy.

Nice brunette with pale skin and freckles, the kind whose skin turns pink when she gets in the sun. Telling you man, that is a once in a lifetime type of lay. I turn real dark in the sun so when I have a chick like that grinding against me man it feels great.
You're quite the character pinkman you're still in miami?
 

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A common complaint of newcomer women to the Valley is having to deal with the local male expectations due to the competition.
When I was a newcomer male to the Phoenix area, I found the male competition for women to be intense. My perception was affected by where I was choosing to seek women. I was going to bars in Old Town Scottsdale as a 20 something. I occasionally went to the Mill Avenue bars near Arizona State. Old Town Scottsdale bars have the most intense male competition of any possible in-person option. Even Tempe isn't as rough.

If I could have done my time in Phoenix over again, I would have been more likely to focus on Phoenix bars instead of Scottsdale bars if doing bar approaching. I would have been more non-bar oriented. I tried doing approaches on Piestewa but had no idea what I was doing because I had never read about or studied daygame. I knew non-bar approaching was a thing as early as age 22 when I had heard about men going to yoga classes to meet women.

I have no idea why any newcomer woman would make that claim about the Phoenix area since there are more single men than single women in the 20s/30s cohort.

I suspect a lot of the Jewish women may be on Jewish sites/apps
JDate and JSwipe probably get a fair amount of members. Jewish women are known for carousel riding and being never married/childless in their 30s.

It's not surprising to me though, assuming what Jesse is saying is true (and it rings true to me) about Italian women being princesses within their own families.
I think Jesse's perception about how Italian-American families treat females has merit.

If these women have a princess complex but are having to deal with heavier competition on the female side than on the male side, it would follow that their expectations and desires are not being met. Therefore no one available is good enough and they're always on the apps, expressing their frustration and disappointment. A common move of theirs is trying to thirst-trap guys with T&A shots on Tinder (as an example) while also hiding behind the presumption of a casual relationship due to the platform. But they're all wanting LTR's, with most of them being reluctant to state it explicitly (most women seeking LTR's on Tinder will at least mention it in their bio).
In most US cities, they aren't dealing with heavier competition. There is a surplus of single men. Most of the US is a sausage fest.

The last few sentences are a description of carousel riding.
 
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When I was a newcomer male to the Phoenix area, I found the male competition for women to be intense. My perception was affected by where I was choosing to seek women. I was going to bars in Old Town Scottsdale as a 20 something. I occasionally went to the Mill Avenue bars near Arizona State. Old Town Scottsdale bars have the most intense male competition of any possible in-person option. Even Tempe isn't as rough.

If I could have done my time in Phoenix over again, I would have been more likely to focus on Phoenix bars instead of Scottsdale bars if doing bar approaching. I would have been more non-bar oriented. I tried doing approaches on Piestewa but had no idea what I was doing because I had never read about or studied daygame. I knew non-bar approaching was a thing as early as age 22 when I had heard about men going to yoga classes to meet women.

I have no idea why any newcomer woman would make that claim about the Phoenix area since there are more single men than single women in the 20s/30s cohort.

What's unique about this area is that there are attractive women anywhere you go in the Valley, not just the hotspots/affluent area/nightlife areas. I would say there are more physically attractive women than men, and while a lot of the dudes are good looking (no homo) and jacked, they tend to have bland personalities, mediocre vibes and lack game. You don't find the intellect you would on the West Coast or the colorful personalities you would on the East Coast or in the South. The whole area is bland and boring for a major metro, imo that's why you find guys chasing 8's and 9's in Scottsdale when you have 6's and 7's and the occasional 8 all over the Valley. When you're boring and live in a boring place, status does take precedence.

With that being said @Jesse Pinkman, I haven't been following the whole thread but if I were you I'd focus on the "warm" spots in addition to the "hot" spots for daygame, assuming you have hotties all over Dade County. It seems that narcissism would be a big issue in Miami, so you might want to reduce your exposure to that.
 
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