"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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It's too much effort

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hi

let me present myself. before my 20yo, I was socially awkward, but I don't feel like that anymore.
Now I'm 25yo, I live in hostels and can meet many people easily. I have no problem to make conversations with girls in normal situations (ie, not daygame).
I'm happy about my life, I have zero willpower problem when I get into a project (workout, money, spirituality...)
A few people told me I'm weird, but whatever. A few girls told me I'm cute, so I guess I'm not ugly.

I never had a girlfriend. My current goal with women is to satisfy my penis. if I can get some love and affection, why not.

The problem is, unless I have a crush on a girl (and that's rare) , then I really don't feel like putting any effort on her, I just want to have sex, I don't want to talk for days or hang out with them.

I've read that if you don't enjoy the process, then game is a big waste of time. Do you think it's true?


Sometime I think I'd better focus on becoming rich and open a porn company (no kidding here) or just travel the world and **** tons of prostitutes. But at some point my need for love and affection would wake up, and I'd be left unskilled about getting girlfriends.

What's your opinion?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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hi

let me present myself. before my 20yo, I was socially awkward, but I don't feel like that anymore.
Now I'm 25yo, I live in hostels and can meet many people easily. I have no problem to make conversations with girls in normal situations (ie, not daygame).
I'm happy about my life, I have zero willpower problem when I get into a project (workout, money, spirituality...)
A few people told me I'm weird, but whatever. A few girls told me I'm cute, so I guess I'm not ugly.

I never had a girlfriend. My current goal with women is to satisfy my penis. if I can get some love and affection, why not.

The problem is, unless I have a crush on a girl (and that's rare) , then I really don't feel like putting any effort on her, I just want to have sex, I don't want to talk for days or hang out with them.

I've read that if you don't enjoy the process, then game is a big waste of time. Do you think it's true?


Sometime I think I'd better focus on becoming rich and open a porn company (no kidding here) or just travel the world and **** tons of prostitutes. But at some point my need for love and affection would wake up, and I'd be left unskilled about getting girlfriends.

What's your opinion?
I think getting unskilled in getting gfs points to a loss of the ability to establish rapport and connection. Its better not to lose that.
 

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hi

let me present myself. before my 20yo, I was socially awkward, but I don't feel like that anymore.
Now I'm 25yo, I live in hostels and can meet many people easily. I have no problem to make conversations with girls in normal situations (ie, not daygame).
I'm happy about my life, I have zero willpower problem when I get into a project (workout, money, spirituality...)
A few people told me I'm weird, but whatever. A few girls told me I'm cute, so I guess I'm not ugly.

I never had a girlfriend. My current goal with women is to satisfy my penis. if I can get some love and affection, why not.

The problem is, unless I have a crush on a girl (and that's rare) , then I really don't feel like putting any effort on her, I just want to have sex, I don't want to talk for days or hang out with them.

I've read that if you don't enjoy the process, then game is a big waste of time. Do you think it's true?


Sometime I think I'd better focus on becoming rich and open a porn company (no kidding here) or just travel the world and **** tons of prostitutes. But at some point my need for love and affection would wake up, and I'd be left unskilled about getting girlfriends.

What's your opinion?
Opening a porn company and having a girlfriend are not mutually exclusive. You can have both.
I say focus on money and porn company right now, once you are succesfull it´ll be easier to get a gf, and your succes will give you access to hotter women
 

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My opinion is that you are probably a porn addict, which is a serious issue and should be resolved in order for you to have a healthy sexual life.
I didn't watch porn since more than a month.
No issue here.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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5ke1chat

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markfromeurope thanks you for trying to help but I think you are not the one I need.

I once stopped masturbation for 2 weeks. I got back into it because its useless to stop. I don't have any faith in little clickbait tricks, "eat 3 bananas a day and it will do incredible things to your body", "drink 1 litter of water just after waking up to get bigger muscles", "stop masturbating and....."

please stop answering my thread

the ability to establish rapport and connection.
Thanks Mrgoodstuff, indeed, one of the last crush I had was because I felt intellectually connected to this girl, and enjoyed a lot her chill and calm vibe. She wasn't even very hot (6/10).
I feel different than most of the people and somehow disconnected from them.
 
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