It's OVER for 99.98%Cels - Sankey diagram of 18F on Tinder

[Solomon]

I kind of agree with this.
i've always said that looks are the most important by FAR as without physical attraction, your 'game' is irrelevant, but i've always conceded that you still usually need some 'game' (or at least not be weird) in order to seal the deal

Although i've seen some evidence recently on some forums of good looking dudes who are actually autistic and very weird who post all kinds of evidence of their tinder lays (typically fairly hot young girls) just because of their looks. They don't know how to hold a convo and know nothing about 'game' etc (and admit their struggles), but they get the job done

I think this is because tinder is often just a matter of matching, then 'come to my place', she turns up (if she's attracted enough) adn then it's often literally straight to sex. Not everyone does dates and stuff (my ex told me some stories about how guys she met on tinder would literally be like 'show me your tits' as soon as they met in person in a park or something! lol)

I think its different for cold appproach. I tihnk you need a bit more 'game', even if she thinks you're good looking when it comes to that

But for sure, for good looking guys, tinder and stuff is literally just like free prostitutes and you don't need 'game' at all. Read old threads on bodybuilding.com when tinder was new to get an idea of how these hookups usually played out lol. Zero 'game' required.

I totally agree with this and even seen this first hand with a former buddy of mine who was extremely good looking had no problem getting dates, numbers and lays. However when he wanted an LTR girls would run away he was a good guy but always depressed and women would notice that and it would scare them away

Eventually he got that handled and now is an LTR but yeah for Tinder and most apps if you just looking to get laid depending on how good looking you are you won't even to take a chick to date and straight to her place or yours. Just be ware of the BPD chicks

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

Applying for a job online has some commonality with trying to get pussie while using a swipe app. It's not entirely analogous but there's a good basis for a comparison.





What's "not true at all" is your response to my claim.

Looks are #1. If you've posted your real pic, that is the kind of physique that gets a woman horny. That's a major advantage over a man with an average to slightly above average physique. The physique alone triggers lust.

While personality factors can influence seduction, personality is less of a factor than looks.

Yes I agree my physique helps a lot but I know a lot of dudes who smoke my physique who can't get laid or if they do can't get laid as fast as I can. Trust me, leading, talking to, and engaging in a woman to sleep with you is a skill in an of itself.
There are probably skinny pua dudes who pull a LOT faster than me and I have pretty crazy game

 

[SW15]

Yes I agree my physique helps a lot but I know a lot of dudes who smoke my physique who can't get laid or if they do can't get laid as fast as I can. Trust me, leading, talking to, and engaging in a woman to sleep with you is a skill in an of itself.
There are probably skinny pua dudes who pull a LOT faster than me and I have pretty crazy game

"Money, muscles, game" -Rollo Tomassi

It looks like you've got the muscles and game part down.

I think you live in Las Vegas too. That can help. A Las Vegas local man can go to some places near the Las Vegas Strip and find some drunk tourist pussie to pound. These are one night stands with no mess afterwards. The female goes back to her home city and everything is good.

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

"Money, muscles, game" -Rollo Tomassi

It looks like you've got the muscles and game part down.

I think you live in Las Vegas too. That can help. A Las Vegas local man can go to some places near the Las Vegas Strip and find some drunk tourist pussie to pound. These are one night stands with no mess afterwards. The female goes back to her home city and everything is good.

I primarily use dating apps until i find a reliable wing to go out with. I belivee in being the "man in town" over cold approach but dont get me wrong i still love cold approach and know its effective.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Applying for a job online has some commonality with trying to get pussie while using a swipe app. It's not entirely analogous but there's a good basis for a comparison.

Point is fortune favors those who, cliche as the phrase is, put themselves out there. The days of some hiring rep at Goldman Sachs being so blown away by your resume that they're practically fellating you, half an hour later, are decades in the past, right alongside the days where a middle manager at the Buddweiser plant had a shot at bagging a former beauty queen

 

[The Duke]

Most men are not smashing their swipe apps arranged dates on the first or second date.

Your physique is the primary reason you are able to smash fast. With that physique, apps can be super efficient for you.

Sure "most men". As a guy you have to stand out from the herd. Be it looks, or personality, ability to trigger an emotional connection, etc. have one of those talents and second dates and sex are guaranteed.

 

[SW15]

As a guy you have to stand out from the herd.

Yes, a man has to stand out from the herd in order to get laid.

Be it looks, or personality, ability to trigger an emotional connection, etc. have one of those talents and second dates and sex are guaranteed.

I agree with with this.

This is part of "money, muscles, and game" that Rollo Tomassi mentions.

 

[BadBoy89]

Getting girls to smash is easy if you kknow what your doing and how to trigger lust in women.

It is “you are” doing, not ”your”

Getting rich is easy if you know what you’re doing and how to invest wisely in companies.

 

[MatureDJ]

Fair enough. If I were wealthy, I certainly wouldn't spend so much of my time scouring the internet to find things to be mad about, but that's just me.

It's not "scouring the internet" - it's just regular surfing and coming across something interesting.

 

[MatureDJ]

Ive smashed every one of my meet ups on dating apps on the first night no question. And fast. If you kown what you rdoing you can smash a girl very fast.

How tall are you?

 

[MatureDJ]

It is “you are” doing, not ”your”

Evidently, it's NOT OVER for GrammarCels.

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

How tall are you?

5'10

 

[MatureDJ]

5'10

That's in the problem zone.

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

That's in the problem zone.

no idea what that means. Height has never been an issue for me but lowkey if i was 5'7 or below might be a diff story. So i have empathy for my short bros.

 

[SW15]

5'10

That's in the problem zone.

In the United States, 5'10" is a very average height for a male. It's not an automatically disqualifying height but it's not a height that women will be excited about in any way. It's the "meh" of heights.

@Thebestthereeveris is not likely to notice his "meh" height due to a fit/muscular physique and visible abs that get women horny. His avatar pic on here would work very well as a main pic on swipe apps and would get him many right swipes from females.

 

[BaronOfHair]

As a guy you have to stand out from the herd

We generally accept this fact of life without much protest in most areas of life...

-Wanna get on the pay roll of a world class employer + Get promoted? Well, you better at least APPEAR different from the typical schmuck who's desperate for a paycheck.

-Trying to break into comedy? Bring the house down when you get up on stage, unlike the next wave of Chris D'Elias and Hannah Gadsbys who compromise 98% of your contemporaries

-Are you an aspiring magician? Well, it'd be an astute to bring something different to the vocation than the typical corn balls who are still recycling David Copperfield and Lance Burton acts that we're already douchey back in The 80s


It's nothing less than astounding that so many of cling to the delusion that dating and mating would work any differently

 

[Clockwerk50]

We generally accept this fact of life without much protest in most areas of life...

-Wanna get on the pay roll of a world class employer + Get promoted? Well, you better at least APPEAR different from the typical schmuck who's desperate for a paycheck.

-Trying to break into comedy? Bring the house down when you get up on stage, unlike the next wave of Chris D'Elias and Hannah Gadsbys who compromise 98% of your contemporaries

-Are you an aspiring magician? Well, it'd be an astute to bring something different to the vocation than the typical corn balls who are still recycling David Copperfield and Lance Burton acts that we're already douchey back in The 80s


It's nothing less than astounding that so many of cling to the delusion that dating and mating would work any differently

Luckily, having even a small edge over the competition is often enough to win. Beyond that, the law of diminishing returns kicks in since more effort doesn’t always mean significantly better results.

 

[MatureDJ]

In the United States, 5'10" is a very average height for a male. It's not an automatically disqualifying height but it's not a height that women will be excited about in any way. It's the "meh" of heights.

@Thebestthereeveris is not likely to notice his "meh" height due to a fit/muscular physique and visible abs that get women horny. His avatar pic on here would work very well as a main pic on swipe apps and would get him many right swipes from females.

I will say that if the avatar picture is accurate, 5'10" would be enough to get into Petit-Chad territory.

 

[MatureDJ]

Luckily, having even a small edge over the competition is often enough to win. Beyond that, the law of diminishing returns kicks in since more effort doesn’t always mean significantly better results.

Wow, imagine a Normie and his one shot per year at sex having THAT be diminished.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Beyond that, the law of diminishing returns kicks in since more effort doesn’t always mean significantly better results.

Yeah, one's efforts have to be shrewd in order to be effective. Doing lots of moronic sh-t will benefit you less than J.L. Hewitt's once perky bajongas are serving her career today, in '25