“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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It's OVER for 99.98%Cels - Sankey diagram of 18F on Tinder

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The future looks pretty damned bleak for fans of 98 Degrees also
 

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Serious question, is this what you do with your free time?

This post is 6 years old, has only 1 upvote, and no comments...you had to DIG for this.

You probably average close to 1 new thread per day, and usually it's just a copy-pasted link that you titled "It's over for (insert whatever)Cels".

Why do you place such little value on your time? Surely there's something better you could be doing, even if you are older.

Anyway, as for the topic...

24,640 swipes over 30 days is 821.3 swipes per day, which is insanity...both you and this woman have way too much time on your hands.
 

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24,640 swipes over 30 days is 821.3 swipes per day, which is insanity...both you and this woman have way too much time on your hands.
This guy swiped on over 2 million women and failed to get laid.


A lot of men will put up huge swiping numbers because they aren't doing any real life approaching and are extremely motivated to get laid.
 

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This guy swiped on over 2 million women and failed to get laid.


A lot of men will put up huge swiping numbers because they aren't doing any real life approaching and are extremely motivated to get laid.
But this is an 18-year-old woman, likely living in a population hub in order to put up those numbers in a single month - I'd have run out of women to swipe on in like 2 or 3 days with that cadence.

The fact that she's only matching with 1/3 of the men she swipes right on also means it's likely she's unattractive. This was pre-COVID, so people were a little less uptight, and the apps weren't overrun with bots.

This is a waste of time all the way around; the guy with 2 million swipes, the girl with almost 25,000 swipes, and the guy who's constantly posting these low-effort, heavily aged Reddit posts.
 

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The fact that she's only matching with 1/3 of the men she swipes right on also means it's likely she's unattractive.
I agree with your statement that she's unattractive.

It was my impression that women had a 50%+ match rate on their right swipes on the major swipe apps. Some women get close to 100% of right swipes as matches. 33% would be a very low match rate on right swipes for any woman.

Even with her being unattractive, she only swiped right on 1% of men. Most women have a right swipe rate of 3-5%. Men typically swipe right on around 50% of women.

She also managed to have some sort of sexual activity with 4 men from her effort. "Hook up" is a vague term.

this is an 18-year-old woman, likely living in a population hub in order to put up those numbers in a single month - I'd have run out of women to swipe on in like 2 or 3 days with that cadence.
In big cities, it almost seems like there's a near endless number of options.

I tried to keep my swiping radius to 10-12 miles because I didn't want to match with someone far away with the traffic in my area. It would create an unsustainable arrangement to see each other regularly. I always had a large number of options within 10-12 miles.

This is a waste of time all the way around; the guy with 2 million swipes, the girl with almost 25,000 swipes
The last 2 generations of adults (Gen Y/Millennials and Gen Z/Zoomers) have had weak social skills.

These generations are less likely to be able to meet people through real life methods. They have been and will continue to be reliant upon tech methods to meet people.

I am an older Millennial born in the 1980s and was starting to see the degradation of real life social skills as far back as when I was in college (2001-2005).

The 1990s born Millennials (1990-1996) and now the newest Gen Z adults (1997-2006 births) have both had weaker social skills than even the Millennials born in the 1980s.

It's very possible to waste a lot of time trying to date using tech methods.
 

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If "98-cels" is a buzzword which translates to "Drab, woe-is-me fellas, who's talents don't extend very far beyond regurgitating either Intersectionalist or Red Pill talking points, as if they're trained seals"... Yeah, the prospects of such "men" getting very far in LIFE more generally are lower The CIA's chances of finally wiping out Al Quaeda anytime soon
 

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This guy swiped on over 2 million women and failed to get laid.


A lot of men will put up huge swiping numbers because they aren't doing any real life approaching and are extremely motivated to get laid.
It's OVER for Minus2MillionCels too.
 

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Serious question, is this what you do with your free time?

This post is 6 years old, has only 1 upvote, and no comments...you had to DIG for this.

You probably average close to 1 new thread per day, and usually it's just a copy-pasted link that you titled "It's over for (insert whatever)Cels".

Why do you place such little value on your time? Surely there's something better you could be doing, even if you are older.

Anyway, as for the topic...

24,640 swipes over 30 days is 821.3 swipes per day, which is insanity...both you and this woman have way too much time on your hands.
I was actually motivated by reading a reddit post that had this Sankey graph for the OP's job applications, and in my usual very curious self, researched what exactly this graph was called (it's named after a mechanical engineer who explained thermodynamic processes with it). I had seen these types of graphs before with dating, and so I did a simply search for "Sankey dating", and this popped up. Usually these graphs are from the male POV, but this one was from the female POV.

I've actually spent more time writing this response than I did to search for the example and do my OP here. I'm independently wealthy now, so I have lots of time. :)
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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She also managed to have some sort of sexual activity with 4 men from her effort. "Hook up" is a vague term.
This means that they have actually met - but yes, who knows if her beau was able to achieve an ejaculation from her. :rolleyes:
 

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This means that they have actually met - but yes, who knows if her beau was able to achieve an ejaculation from her. :rolleyes:
Actually meeting in person means nothing. So many first dates arranged from swipe apps are "1-2 dates, no sex, no extended relationship".
 

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Actually meeting in person means nothing. So many first dates arranged from swipe apps are "1-2 dates, no sex, no extended relationship".
Ive smashed every one of my meet ups on dating apps on the first night no question. And fast. If you kown what you rdoing you can smash a girl very fast.
 

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Ive smashed every one of my meet ups on dating apps on the first night no question. And fast.
Most men are not smashing their swipe apps arranged dates on the first or second date.

Your physique is the primary reason you are able to smash fast. With that physique, apps can be super efficient for you.
 

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Most men are not smashing their swipe apps arranged dates on the first or second date.

Your physique is the primary reason you are able to smash fast. With that physique, apps can be super efficient for you.
Not true at all. Getting girls to smash is easy if you kknow what your doing and how to trigger lust in women.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Not true at all. Getting girls to smash is easy if you kknow what your doing and how to trigger lust in women.
All these "It's over for most men" threads that OP clogs SS with are akin to pointing out that most job seekers either won't be hired, or will be compelled to settle for a bottom of the barrel gig. Well, most job seekers rely solely on filling out applications and waiting for someone to respond, rather than networking and the like, so yeah... They end up with table scraps or less

This is less surprising than your tween sob and his compadres returning home from summer camp in body bags, when said camp was set up and supervised by John Wayne Gacy
 

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table scraps or less
Applying for a job online has some commonality with trying to get pussie while using a swipe app. It's not entirely analogous but there's a good basis for a comparison.

Most men are not smashing their swipe apps arranged dates on the first or second date.

Your physique is the primary reason you are able to smash fast. With that physique, apps can be super efficient for you.
Not true at all. Getting girls to smash is easy if you kknow what your doing and how to trigger lust in women.
What's "not true at all" is your response to my claim.

Looks are #1. If you've posted your real pic, that is the kind of physique that gets a woman horny. That's a major advantage over a man with an average to slightly above average physique. The physique alone triggers lust.

While personality factors can influence seduction, personality is less of a factor than looks.
 

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Not true at all. Getting girls to smash is easy if you kknow what your doing and how to trigger lust in women.
Totally agree. not saying looks don't matter they certainly do but smashing OLD women is very easy if you know what you're doing.
It's about having frame, not being a weirdo, and if you have game that's 50% of the battle not your looks

Your looks got you the match but Game gets you the date and sugar walls

  • You still have to show up, and not be a weirdo
  • You still have to be charismatic and not thirsty
  • You still have to get her to meet you

If you're good looking you will get either more leeway or more shyt test. The longest I ever had to wait was a 5 dates and that was over 12 years ago with an ex girlfriend since then it doesn't take longer than date 2 usually if a girl on OLD likes you date 1 is a giving, lotta horny women looking to get stretched out. These modern women ain't looking to wait for commitment to smash they move very fast (young or old)

Looks aren't going to be the deciding factor if she sleeps with you if you don't know how to lead her(have game) into the bedroom
 
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I've actually spent more time writing this response than I did to search for the example and do my OP here. I'm independently wealthy now, so I have lots of time. :)
Fair enough. If I were wealthy, I certainly wouldn't spend so much of my time scouring the internet to find things to be mad about, but that's just me.
 

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Totally agree. not saying looks don't matter they certainly do but smashing OLD women is very easy if you know what you're doing.
It's about having frame, not being a weirdo, and if you have game that's 50% of the battle not your looks

Your looks got you the match but Game gets you the date and sugar walls

  • You still have to show up, and not be a weirdo
  • You still have to be charismatic and not thirsty
  • You still have to get her to meet you

If you're good looking you will get either more leeway or more shyt test. The longest I ever had to wait was a 5 dates and that was over 12 years ago with an ex girlfriend since then it doesn't take longer than date 2 usually if a girl on OLD likes you date 1 is a giving, lotta horny women looking to get stretched out. These modern women ain't looking to wait for commitment to smash they move very fast (young or old)

Looks aren't going to be the deciding factor if she sleeps with you if you don't know how to lead her(have game) into the bedroom
I kind of agree with this.
i've always said that looks are the most important by FAR as without physical attraction, your 'game' is irrelevant, but i've always conceded that you still usually need some 'game' (or at least not be weird) in order to seal the deal

Although i've seen some evidence recently on some forums of good looking dudes who are actually autistic and very weird who post all kinds of evidence of their tinder lays (typically fairly hot young girls) just because of their looks. They don't know how to hold a convo and know nothing about 'game' etc (and admit their struggles), but they get the job done

I think this is because tinder is often just a matter of matching, then 'come to my place', she turns up (if she's attracted enough) adn then it's often literally straight to sex. Not everyone does dates and stuff (my ex told me some stories about how guys she met on tinder would literally be like 'show me your tits' as soon as they met in person in a park or something! lol)

I think its different for cold appproach. I tihnk you need a bit more 'game', even if she thinks you're good looking when it comes to that

But for sure, for good looking guys, tinder and stuff is literally just like free prostitutes and you don't need 'game' at all. Read old threads on bodybuilding.com when tinder was new to get an idea of how these hookups usually played out lol. Zero 'game' required.
 
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