"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It's better to be a NATURAL...then being creepy.

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have you guys notice that having this kinde of knowledge is in fact creepy.

think of the times girls will think it was spontaneous / fate, but in fact it was all masterminded by knowledge of seduction.

What do you guys say, creepy or not?

Better if it was natural right ;)
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Always better to be natural. Yeah, it's kind of creepy. I just asked the mod to delete my account.
 

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Yeah, but all this talk about being natural, being alpha, trusting the gut, just be confident comes from the fact that you first used the material to know what the f**k to do. Otherwise you wouldn't have a clue about what you were supposed to do and just keep wondering to yourself what the f**k should I do.
...Which brings you back to the material.

Anyway, it's easy to become natural after you know how to handle yourself, but that only comes with practice. In fact it's only natural that you become natural after that. It's like pook said, do not be attained by formula.

It happens to everyone, but everyone must use the training wheels before riding a bike.
 

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I guess, thing is I have been into this for over 7 years and my knowledge/experience..heck, I even make prostitutes fall in love with me.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Lotus Effect said:
It happens to everyone, but everyone must use the training wheels before riding a bike.
Yes, I've seen it when I drive by a school or in a neighborhood (kids off from school, hookey, or for the Summer break whatever, the weekend) and a dude will be riding his bike slowly and circling her allthewhile macking on a girl walking (wherever she's walking) keeping her 'not bored'

You must catch her in her 'bored' times and keep her 'not bored' try to fvck her in her bored times, Not when she's having more fun than YOU.

Then there's the fisherman's analogy. Is he being 'natural' using Every bait imaginable to lure the fish to its demise (or he could release it, but he could scare it to death/shock the fish if he just throws it back into the water and it dies of shock, instead of gently releasing it back into the water).

It's kinda diabolical, these fishermen, who Use Every tactic to rack up as many big fish as they can, but that's life, you gotta survive, you gotta pass on your genes. If you want King Arthur and the knight's court fair-tale land, then go live that, if you got the money and the family lineage to live a Senator's life or royal life where you can play in that fairy-tale world, a kinda Heaven on Earth outside of nature.

So either play by nature (the animal kingdom) or play by unnatural methods of purity (picket white fence life).
 

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Women learned their behaviors and tactics naturally through a natural, gradual socialization structure that they found themselves woven into. Most of us men have had no exposure to any kind of natural structure.

Therefore, just like walking, riding a bike, sports, etc., we need to learn these things and internalize them through a formal structure. Once they are learned, they become internalized and calibrated to our personalities.

Therefore, it's not creepy at all but rather a learning process. Throughout history some men have learned to create illusions with which to captivate women, and most have not. What women crave is illusions, and not flesh and blood men. Seduction has always been about creating perceptions and harnessing the art of influence.
 

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I'm a natural at making my friends laugh but that doesn't mean I can do stand up comedy without a routine.

I'm a natural at writing and expressing ideas but that doesn't mean I can knock out a 120 page screenplay without planning, structure and ruthless editing.

I'm naturally fit and healthy but that doesn't mean I can run a marathon without gradually building up to it.

What's creepy about wanting to understand women better?

I love women. I love women like some guys love cars. I just want to know what makes them tick so I can drive them better. :)
 

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user name said:
I'm a natural at making my friends laugh but that doesn't mean I can do stand up comedy without a routine.

I'm a natural at writing and expressing ideas but that doesn't mean I can knock out a 120 page screenplay without planning, structure and ruthless editing.

I'm naturally fit and healthy but that doesn't mean I can run a marathon without gradually building up to it.

What's creepy about wanting to understand women better?

I love women. I love women like some guys love cars. I just want to know what makes them tick so I can drive them better. :)
Amen!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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