jnMissouri
Master Don Juan
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Kiss of death? I'll post a follow up, there's a reason I'm asking.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Did nothing and received this.Info omitted, if you text her first and she replied with this is different from doing nothing and receiving this.
Isn't this a kiss of death most of the time though?You have to assume only positive things, you did your job the best you could, you are the man. She chose to compliment you. If you didn't reply that's good. You just proceed the way you usually operate from now on, because you have nothing to loose. Now it's too late to respond, proper response would have been it's was nice meeting you as well. No smiles. How long you wait until your next move? Do that.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
In all fairness, maybe he doesn’t want to bias the posters by revealing the outcome first. Maybe he wants to know what we think is the general rule on that before he tells us the specific outcome.Is this another 13 year old situation where you already know the outcome and will post it in a bit, after everyone has given you their opinions?
No, usually an indicator of high ILKiss of death? I'll post a follow up, there's a reason I'm asking.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
No, usually an indicator of high IL
Thats because its near impossible to have all the information to make a truly informed decision. We arent there hearing what you hear, watching her body language, seeing her response to things you do, etc...That's what I felt gut level too and read online. Guess what, some of the advice on here is bad. She meant it and we are having dinner friday.
I've noticed the advice on the forum to he hit or miss. Lots of people misread situations or make assumptions.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Dirty mind dirty mind lolSounds very illegal...
Nope. That was it. I've just noticed a lot of guys here assume a lot and don't even read all the relevant information provided in most cases.The problem isn’t bad advice. The problem is that these things can go either way and people are forced to “read the tea leaves” on situations they are not directly involved in.
I’ve gotten texts like that with opposite outcomes. Some mean it and want to see you again. Some are just being nice but aren’t interested.
The tell tale is not the text. It’s the change in the dynamic of communicatiin compared to before.
For example, if her IL is high before the date, she initiated a lot, always responds when you respond, good mornings, good nights, the actual date seems to go ok, you got that kiss close, get that “nice to meet you” text after it...and then all of the sudden she isn’t initiating anymore...kiss of death.
Can you actually share with everyone what else was in that text, or how she actually continued communicating with you after it, just like she did before it?. I would bet you’re holding some of that back just to prove a point.
I agree no one should be so adamant, particularly when it comes to dissecting personal circumstances of strangers over the internet.
That said, this event happened 13 years ago. 13 years ago this wasn’t such a bad response from a woman after a date. But today a lot of women are using this as a soft or polite rejection. A lot of guys here probably responded thinking this just happened to you.
Have you gotten one of these “nice to meet you” texts very recently? You might find a completely different outcome than you did 13 years ago... so all the same, don’t assume just because they are wrong about something that happened way back then means you’re right about something like that if it happens now.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.