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It costs $250 to clean my 2 bedroom home.

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A man doesn't actually need a girlfriend to get his place cleaned. I think most men consider the sex to be a far more important part of having a girlfriend. The sex is the most valuable thing that a girlfriend provides.
 

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A man doesn't actually need a girlfriend to get his place cleaned. I think most men consider the sex to be a far more important part of having a girlfriend. The sex is the most valuable thing that a girlfriend provides.
Which is mind boggling as to why a guy would put up with all the other bs if he isn't getting sex.
 

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The house is gotta be clean before you get a gf.
It depends on how strong your seduction skills are. One of the highest notch guys I knew kept a messy apartment and got a girlfriend. He is a 6'4" ex college athlete. That mattered more than the messy apartment. He later put a ring on it and she cleans their house now.

Which is mind boggling as to why a guy would put up with all the other bs if he isn't getting sex.
I agree.
 

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I struggle to keep my place tidy, my spare room is now not my office but a junk room. I leave things everywhere then do a mad cleanup when anyone comes over. Amante Silver taught me some good techniques actually.

When I rented my room to a girl the place was always immaculate. I've brought girls back when it was a sh!thole, maybe they cared, but they always came back no problem. I always felt some type of way, but my natural inability to stay organised overrides everything else.

My aunt said to hire a cleaner but the 13oz of cali in my house and cash means that's a no go.
 

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You picked them up on professional network. Like angieslist?
I have no idea what that is but I can make a guess that's an escort listing.

Btw, if you want to see the state of a woman's mind, just measure her by how clean her room is.
 

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I have no idea what that is but I can make a guess that's an escort listing.

Btw, if you want to see the state of a woman's mind, just measure her by how clean her room is.
Escort listing were taken down in a big bust a few years back. Craigslist is still wide open with cleaning services and baby sitters ;-)
 

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It costs £0 to clean my house. I do it and wouldn't have it any other way.
 

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Im busy as hell so I have a hard time keeping things up. I clean to a reasonable level, but there's smaller stuff that require an hour or two of investment like the kitchen or bathroom that I simply don't have time to do.
 

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A man doesn't actually need a girlfriend to get his place cleaned. I think most men consider the sex to be a far more important part of having a girlfriend. The sex is the most valuable thing that a girlfriend provides.
Damn. Sex is easy to come by. Why do I need a woman again?
 

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Damn. Sex is easy to come by. Why do I need a woman again?
The more common path to more frequent sex is through some extended relationship. That's a girlfriend and the earlier years of a wife. As the years progress in a marriage, the sex frequency usually diminishes. This is why I believe that committed romantic relationships only have a shelf life of goodness of 5 years in most cases.

Sex is not easy to come by for the typical man. 26% of men ages 18+ had no sex in the last calendar year. I'd say 30-35% or more of men 18+ have infrequent sex.
 

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The more common path to more frequent sex is through some extended relationship. That's a girlfriend and the earlier years of a wife. As the years progress in a marriage, the sex frequency usually diminishes. This is why I believe that committed romantic relationships only have a shelf life of goodness of 5 years in most cases.

Sex is not easy to come by for the typical man. 26% of men ages 18+ had no sex in the last calendar year. I'd say 30-35% or more of men 18+ have infrequent sex.
Would you argue that girls you have a lot of sex with are effectively your gf? Even if she's a plate? I'm starting to realize that even we dont voice it, we're technically being boyfriend and girlfriend hanging out that way.
 

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Would you argue that girls you have a lot of sex with are effectively your gf? Even if she's a plate? I'm starting to realize that even we dont voice it, we're technically being boyfriend and girlfriend hanging out that way.
No, I would not argue that. I would call that more of a situationship. A relationship has to be more defined and there has to be an expectation of monogamy.
 

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