"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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It costs $250 to clean my 2 bedroom home.

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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A man doesn't actually need a girlfriend to get his place cleaned. I think most men consider the sex to be a far more important part of having a girlfriend. The sex is the most valuable thing that a girlfriend provides.
 

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The house is gotta be clean before you get a gf.
It depends on how strong your seduction skills are. One of the highest notch guys I knew kept a messy apartment and got a girlfriend. He is a 6'4" ex college athlete. That mattered more than the messy apartment. He later put a ring on it and she cleans their house now.

Which is mind boggling as to why a guy would put up with all the other bs if he isn't getting sex.
I agree.
 

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I struggle to keep my place tidy, my spare room is now not my office but a junk room. I leave things everywhere then do a mad cleanup when anyone comes over. Amante Silver taught me some good techniques actually.

When I rented my room to a girl the place was always immaculate. I've brought girls back when it was a sh!thole, maybe they cared, but they always came back no problem. I always felt some type of way, but my natural inability to stay organised overrides everything else.

My aunt said to hire a cleaner but the 13oz of cali in my house and cash means that's a no go.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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You picked them up on professional network. Like angieslist?
I have no idea what that is but I can make a guess that's an escort listing.

Btw, if you want to see the state of a woman's mind, just measure her by how clean her room is.
 

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I have no idea what that is but I can make a guess that's an escort listing.

Btw, if you want to see the state of a woman's mind, just measure her by how clean her room is.
Escort listing were taken down in a big bust a few years back. Craigslist is still wide open with cleaning services and baby sitters ;-)
 

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It costs £0 to clean my house. I do it and wouldn't have it any other way.
 

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Im busy as hell so I have a hard time keeping things up. I clean to a reasonable level, but there's smaller stuff that require an hour or two of investment like the kitchen or bathroom that I simply don't have time to do.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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A man doesn't actually need a girlfriend to get his place cleaned. I think most men consider the sex to be a far more important part of having a girlfriend. The sex is the most valuable thing that a girlfriend provides.
Damn. Sex is easy to come by. Why do I need a woman again?
 

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Damn. Sex is easy to come by. Why do I need a woman again?
The more common path to more frequent sex is through some extended relationship. That's a girlfriend and the earlier years of a wife. As the years progress in a marriage, the sex frequency usually diminishes. This is why I believe that committed romantic relationships only have a shelf life of goodness of 5 years in most cases.

Sex is not easy to come by for the typical man. 26% of men ages 18+ had no sex in the last calendar year. I'd say 30-35% or more of men 18+ have infrequent sex.
 

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The more common path to more frequent sex is through some extended relationship. That's a girlfriend and the earlier years of a wife. As the years progress in a marriage, the sex frequency usually diminishes. This is why I believe that committed romantic relationships only have a shelf life of goodness of 5 years in most cases.

Sex is not easy to come by for the typical man. 26% of men ages 18+ had no sex in the last calendar year. I'd say 30-35% or more of men 18+ have infrequent sex.
Would you argue that girls you have a lot of sex with are effectively your gf? Even if she's a plate? I'm starting to realize that even we dont voice it, we're technically being boyfriend and girlfriend hanging out that way.
 

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Would you argue that girls you have a lot of sex with are effectively your gf? Even if she's a plate? I'm starting to realize that even we dont voice it, we're technically being boyfriend and girlfriend hanging out that way.
No, I would not argue that. I would call that more of a situationship. A relationship has to be more defined and there has to be an expectation of monogamy.
 
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