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Is this a good rejection to "success" ratio?

dudewut

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Out of 20 girls in my life that I have been "involved" with I have been rejected by 11 and I succeeded with 9, out of that 9, 4 approached me. I am 20 years old btw.

I dont know I just got bored and decided to count girls lol I know I am not that good looking, but I dont know if thats decent or what....but now my oneitis is cured I am thinking of going back to the game (and increase those numbers exponentially) as soon as this semester ends.

oh and "success" would be when they initiated a "date" or going out, I mean thats gotta count for something right?
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

PapiChulo

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Thats good numbers unless you are biasing us.
 

dudewut

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if I was I would make the rejections less or something lol I did not include how many women I actually met in my life (I cant even remember how many they are exactly)
 

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According to Louis and Copeland (How to Succeed with Women, 2000) a "successful seducer" will sleep with 1 out of 4 women he dates. So you appear successful.
 

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bigneil said:
According to Louis and Copeland (How to Succeed with Women, 2000) a "successful seducer" will sleep with 1 out of 4 women he dates. So you appear successful.
I haven't read that one in a long time. Subject to check, I think they said 1 in 10.

Either way, those are good numbers you have dude.
 

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You're right Mike32ct - it was actually two statistics -

(I don't have the book in front of me but it's something like:)

1) A successful seducer gets a date with 1 in 10 women he asks out.
2) A successful seducer gets laid by 1 in 4 women he dates.

So it was actually 1 in 40, depending on how you look at it. But he said he was involved already so I went to step 2.

Classic book.
 

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bigneil said:
You're right Mike32ct - it was actually two statistics -

(I don't have the book in front of me but it's something like:)

1) A successful seducer gets a date with 1 in 10 women he asks out.
2) A successful seducer gets laid by 1 in 4 women he dates.

So it was actually 1 in 40, depending on how you look at it. But he said he was involved already so I went to step 2.

Classic book.
It looks pretty low to me. I'm not a celebrity, a millionnaire nor a Calvin Klein model but after improving my game consistently over the years my stats would be more something like:

- 4 or 5 dates out of 10 approaches (dates, not numbers. flaky numbers are just padding the stats)
- More importantly 4 or 5 out of the 5 dates I get end with a kiss on the first date and a lay on the second or third.

Once the girl comes to a date, your job is to not mess it up. At some point in your progression, you should always be able to close the deal on the second or third date if you didn't commit any deal-breaking blunder.

As for the approach ratio. One of the surest ways to improve it is by reading girls body language more accurately to pick ones exhibiting signs of availibility/interest however subtle they may be.
Eye contact, smile, direction of the body etc. Just my 2cts.
 

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Well why fighting on numbers I don't believe that number carries luck so why fight for it so much if there is some worthy of fighting with it is in your work field or study field ....
 

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I dont think ratio means shyt. If some nerd grows the balls to approach one woman and gets laid, then never tries again, he still has a 100% ratio. On the other hand, the top pickup gurus have literally been rejected thousands of times, because they play the numbers game. A lot of them chalk their score up to 150 women f closed. So, they are running less than ten percent approach to sex ratio.
 

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horaholic said:
I dont think ratio means shyt. If some nerd grows the balls to approach one woman and gets laid, then never tries again, he still has a 100% ratio. On the other hand, the top pickup gurus have literally been rejected thousands of times, because they play the numbers game. A lot of them chalk their score up to 150 women f closed. So, they are running less than ten percent approach to sex ratio.
I totally agree with the observation that you can't succeed without failing many times. You have to get to the point where you actually embrace and dare I say enjoy rejection as it's the best way to learn.

The pitfall you should avoid though is repeating the same mistakes over and over again and relying on blind luck to turn things around.
 
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