"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Is this a good rejection to "success" ratio?

dudewut

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Out of 20 girls in my life that I have been "involved" with I have been rejected by 11 and I succeeded with 9, out of that 9, 4 approached me. I am 20 years old btw.

I dont know I just got bored and decided to count girls lol I know I am not that good looking, but I dont know if thats decent or what....but now my oneitis is cured I am thinking of going back to the game (and increase those numbers exponentially) as soon as this semester ends.

oh and "success" would be when they initiated a "date" or going out, I mean thats gotta count for something right?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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PapiChulo

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Thats good numbers unless you are biasing us.
 

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if I was I would make the rejections less or something lol I did not include how many women I actually met in my life (I cant even remember how many they are exactly)
 

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According to Louis and Copeland (How to Succeed with Women, 2000) a "successful seducer" will sleep with 1 out of 4 women he dates. So you appear successful.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Mike32ct

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bigneil said:
According to Louis and Copeland (How to Succeed with Women, 2000) a "successful seducer" will sleep with 1 out of 4 women he dates. So you appear successful.
I haven't read that one in a long time. Subject to check, I think they said 1 in 10.

Either way, those are good numbers you have dude.
 

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You're right Mike32ct - it was actually two statistics -

(I don't have the book in front of me but it's something like:)

1) A successful seducer gets a date with 1 in 10 women he asks out.
2) A successful seducer gets laid by 1 in 4 women he dates.

So it was actually 1 in 40, depending on how you look at it. But he said he was involved already so I went to step 2.

Classic book.
 

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bigneil said:
You're right Mike32ct - it was actually two statistics -

(I don't have the book in front of me but it's something like:)

1) A successful seducer gets a date with 1 in 10 women he asks out.
2) A successful seducer gets laid by 1 in 4 women he dates.

So it was actually 1 in 40, depending on how you look at it. But he said he was involved already so I went to step 2.

Classic book.
It looks pretty low to me. I'm not a celebrity, a millionnaire nor a Calvin Klein model but after improving my game consistently over the years my stats would be more something like:

- 4 or 5 dates out of 10 approaches (dates, not numbers. flaky numbers are just padding the stats)
- More importantly 4 or 5 out of the 5 dates I get end with a kiss on the first date and a lay on the second or third.

Once the girl comes to a date, your job is to not mess it up. At some point in your progression, you should always be able to close the deal on the second or third date if you didn't commit any deal-breaking blunder.

As for the approach ratio. One of the surest ways to improve it is by reading girls body language more accurately to pick ones exhibiting signs of availibility/interest however subtle they may be.
Eye contact, smile, direction of the body etc. Just my 2cts.
 

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Well why fighting on numbers I don't believe that number carries luck so why fight for it so much if there is some worthy of fighting with it is in your work field or study field ....
 

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I dont think ratio means shyt. If some nerd grows the balls to approach one woman and gets laid, then never tries again, he still has a 100% ratio. On the other hand, the top pickup gurus have literally been rejected thousands of times, because they play the numbers game. A lot of them chalk their score up to 150 women f closed. So, they are running less than ten percent approach to sex ratio.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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horaholic said:
I dont think ratio means shyt. If some nerd grows the balls to approach one woman and gets laid, then never tries again, he still has a 100% ratio. On the other hand, the top pickup gurus have literally been rejected thousands of times, because they play the numbers game. A lot of them chalk their score up to 150 women f closed. So, they are running less than ten percent approach to sex ratio.
I totally agree with the observation that you can't succeed without failing many times. You have to get to the point where you actually embrace and dare I say enjoy rejection as it's the best way to learn.

The pitfall you should avoid though is repeating the same mistakes over and over again and relying on blind luck to turn things around.
 
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