Is there anything u can do about your looks besides expensive clothes and working out

[HardTimes]

I'm talking about from a purely physical attraction standpoint. I know online for the most part is bull**** but I have been missing opprotunities purely based on looks and I don't know what I can do it about it. Do I just have to accept that I don't have good enough genetics?

I can't think of much else what I can do. I'm 5'8, 145lb, about 14% body fat at less check (yes I know this could be better and I'm working on it but for the most part I am lean), very clean cut and wear fairly expensive clothes and expensive cologne. I have specifically been passed up beacause of my looks when I send pics to some girls (they either say im not their type or that they'll pass). Just now I got passed up my a girl that looks like she is slighly overweight. This is kinda the last draw and I want to know if you guys had any suggestions on how I can look better.

 

[ssj4halo]

145 at 14% bf. You aren't that big man. You should aim for 160 at 14%. I am the same height as you almost and am aiming for 160 lbs. I think thet'll be an excellent weight. Then cut down and you will have that typical body girls like.

Besides that...you tried cleaning up your skin right? there are threads here on it. the dark circles in your eyes...

make sure you have a good hairstyle...good clothes...

in terms of looks....thats pretty much all you can do. If anything....get a piercing. college girls like that.

if you aren't getting any replies online..then you have to approach more often in reality. This way you can shine your personality and skills from this site at girls and then your looks will automatically will not matter at all.

 

[HardTimes]

145 at 14% bf. You aren't that big man. You should aim for 160 at 14%. I am the same height as you almost and am aiming for 160 lbs. I think thet'll be an excellent weight. Then cut down and you will have that typical body girls like.

I know I'm not that big and I plan to bulk a bit but not too much. I'm already pretty strong for my weight I just don't have the body type to be really bulky. I'm trying to hover around 145-150lb and get down to 10% bf.

Besides that...you tried cleaning up your skin right? there are threads here on it. the dark circles in your eyes...

My skin looks ok I suppose.

make sure you have a good hairstyle...good clothes...

Yeah I already stated I try to look clean cut and wear expensive clothes.

in terms of looks....thats pretty much all you can do. If anything....get a piercing. college girls like that.

I'm 26, not going after college girls, but I am thinking about getting a few tats.

if you aren't getting any replies online..then you have to approach more often in reality. This way you can shine your personality and skills from this site at girls and then your looks will automatically will not matter at all.

I'm not talking about getting replies, I'm talking about women bailing AFTER they see my pics. Online for now is just something I do in my idle time I still go out and sarge but I just passively use online since I feel I dont go out enough (see my previous thread) and dont feel I have enough success IRL to not look for other means.

 

[Daydream Engineer]

You need to start exercising.... then the world becomes an oyster. We need a picture... thats the only way we can truely see. Upload it to tinypic.com and paste the link in your next post.

 

[constantlygettingup]

You guys are doing too many things for them. You need to take care of a negative mentality first. If you do, you will think you are more attractive. Which is the whole thing really getting people to accept your frame.

 

[Commandante]

You need to take care of a negative mentality first.

I totally agree.

HardTimes: if you think your look is not good enough with 14% of body fat, which is totally healthy and biological OK, than you are not really satisfied with yourself, are you? This ruins your self-confidence. In this case it doesn´t matter what kind of clothes you wear or tats you have, the chick notice this lack of self-confidence and flee from you. Think positive!

I don´t know what kind of profile-pictures you use, but if I were you I would do some kind of sport I like and makes me feel alive, and would take a picture of myself directly after that. Use a picture like this as a profile-picture.

 

[Alle_Gory]

14% BF is fine dude. I'm at 15% and I look good. I go to the gym because I want to look and feel awesome, and I love training and racking up weights.

How do you not have the body type to be bulky? Post a pic of someone who has a similar body to yours.

 

[secks]

Your confidence will change your looks more than any of that other stuff combined.

 

[Cure]

look up photos of really sucessfull pick up artists, some are hot, some really arn't. Some are in between.
Take Neil Straus for example, not amazingly good looking if you just saw him on the street and didnt know who he was, not massivly built, tall, and hes bald.. yet he gets laid more than most people on this forum put together.
Point is, stop worrying about what you look like. if you work out, wear decent (not nessecarily expensive) cloths, keep clean etc, its all about attitude and confidence.
The problem with your looks isnt what you look like, its that you have a negative self image of what you look like and that comes through in your confidence around women.
As for online, some girls will pass, just like some will in real life. It may be based on your looks, or on their general perception, or somthing entirly different. Move on the next one...

Cure

 

[HardTimes]

Hold on guys I think you guys missed the situation I had in my OP.

This is not about me lacking confidence or anything because I do approach in real life all the time when I go out, this is specifically about me getting turned on solely based of my looks when I send my picture to some girls online.

Most recently (yesterday) I got turned down based off my looks from a fat chick. That's what prompted me to make this thread as it kinda made me feel like shyt to get turned down from a fat chick.

 

[HardTimes]

I don´t know what kind of profile-pictures you use, but if I were you I would do some kind of sport I like and makes me feel alive, and would take a picture of myself directly after that. Use a picture like this as a profile-picture.

Yes I agree 14% body fat is decent but I still want to get it down to around 8-10% so I can walk around with my veins popping out without even flexing and a 6 pack without even flexing. Yes I know 8-10% is very hard to do but I'm still going to work on it.

For the pictures I'm sending. I send a fun pic with a beer in my hand at a party and smiling at the camera and a pic with a wife beater on so you can see the majority of the body (so the girls know I'm athletic looking). I don't really have any pics of me playing sports.

 

[HardTimes]

How do you not have the body type to be bulky? Post a pic of someone who has a similar body to yours.

You know how there are certain body types? I'm the type that is naturally skinny and there is no way I can get bulky without juicing up. Just think of a sprinters body but with a higher % body fat so I'm not all cut up like they are. I still have decent sized muscles though I think last time I checked I have a 15" bicep.

 

[HardTimes]

As for online, some girls will pass, just like some will in real life. It may be based on your looks, or on their general perception, or somthing entirly different. Move on the next one...

The problem is I'm starting to have girls pass SPECIFICALLY on my looks and telling me they are passing specifically on my looks. It doesn't get anymore straight forward than that.

In real life at least I have game and body language to help me, online all I have is my looks.

 

[ketostix]

The thing about pics and showing them to women is you can't really separate physical looks from the other things. Things like your hairstyle and facial expression. Even the background could have a bearing. You should take more pics and some of them will come out better. Even unattractive people can get a few pics that make thm look much better.

 

[HardTimes]

The thing about pics and showing them to women is you can't really separate physical looks from the other things. Things like your hairstyle and facial expression. Even the background could have a bearing. You should take more pics and some of them will come out better. Even unattractive people can get a few pics that make thm look much better.

Like I said I have a pic of me at a party with a beer in my hand smiling with a bunch of people in the background. It was one of those random in the moment point and shoot pictures too so it looks pretty natural. I don't know how much better it can get than that other than the fact that the pic is very low quality since it was taken with a camera phone.

I just think that these women just straight up find me unattractive.

 

[Dannyrt34]

In real life at least I have game and body language to help me, online all I have is my looks.

Well then stop trying to meet girls online.

 

[cola]

start taking pictures with better expression may help.. i use to always take pictures that were boring with a stoic look on my face .. i just recently started using different expressions.. i,e sticking my tounge out, giving the finger, over exaggerated smiles.. and it aint make me look better in pictures but it made me look like a fun guy and the girls picked up on it and my success on social networking sites went up.. now i have chicks sending
me friend requests, something i never had and its a good confidence boost.. also social proof your pictures.. have pics with you kissing girls, girls hugging you etc.. women want men other chicks find attractive.. good luck

 

[Captain]

Make your workouts more intense. You don't just want to be above average, you want to be exceptional. It's not hard to find a man with a good body, but finding an exceptionally good body is.

 

[ketostix]

Like I said I have a pic of me at a party with a beer in my hand smiling with a bunch of people in the background. It was one of those random in the moment point and shoot pictures too so it looks pretty natural. I don't know how much better it can get than that other than the fact that the pic is very low quality since it was taken with a camera phone.

I just think that these women just straight up find me unattractive.

You don't want a camera phone pic. Those usually suck. You want to take several pics with a digital cam and see which ones come out best and get the best responses.

 

[HardTimes]

Well then stop trying to meet girls online.

I already stated I just do it to supplement in addition to meeting girls out in the real world.