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Is there any reason for optimism in dating?

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If I'm ever in a college town, I know there are almost always tons of honies at the bars and on campus. Aside from minor dust-ups in the past between clueless PUA's and campus security, college campuses have always been great if you are discrete enough and basically socially normal (which sadly and obviously most pua's are not).

Unfortunately, most campuses are now "closed" or at least restricted meaning you cannot access any building or event without a mask and/or vax card/phone code.

Several local bars have either closed down or have scaled back hours significantly so "bar hopping" is scaled down or no longer happening. In larger metro areas, you also need to mask and have vax "proof" to access businesses indoors.

Meetup has scaled back at least 70% or more for in-person meetups.

I don't bother with swipe apps, but most report they are full of bots, spam and attention seekers, with occasional -4 SMV dates at best.

Not only have the quantity of social events taken a severe hit, but the quality has dipped precipitously: what's the point of going to a park of 90% of the people are wearing masks and sunglasses? That's just sick and bizarre.

There was a small respite this summer but it was as short as a couple of weeks or a month as most large cities and even entire states are fake mandating masks again.

So back to the question, what reasons do we have to be optimistic about dating in the near future?
 
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If I'm ever in a college town, I know there are almost always tons of honies at the bars and on campus. Aside from minor dust-ups in the past between clueless PUA's and campus security, college campuses have always been great if you are discrete enough and basically socially normal (which sadly and obviously most pua's are not).

Unfortunately, most campuses are now "closed" or at least restricted meaning you cannot access any building or event without a mask and/or vax card/phone code.

Several local bars have either closed down or have scaled back hours significantly so "bar hopping" is scaled down or no longer happening. In larger metro areas, you also need to mask and have vax "proof" to access businesses indoors.

Meetup has scaled back at least 70% or more for in-person meetups.

I don't bother with swipe apps, but most report they are full of bots, spam and attention seekers, with occasional -4 SMV dates at best.

Not only have the quantity of social events taken a severe hit, but the quality has dipped precipitously: what's the point of going to a park of 90% of the people are wearing masks and sunglasses? That's just sick and bizarre.

There was a small respite this summer but it was as short as a couple of weeks or a month as most large cities and even entire states are fake mandating masks again.

So back to the question, what reasons do we have to be optimistic about dating in the near future?
Get vaxxed then. I'm not getting vaxxed, but might watch porn because I'm mad about the pandemic and the vaccines and unless I get vaxxed before September 25th this year, I think I might look at porn because I'm really mad about this.
 

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Some guys just need to bite the bullet and forget about women entirely. Use porn and sex gadgets to get you off and find manly hobbies like mountaineering, dirtbiking, sailing etc to make life worth living. Also get a dog.
Being hooked on porn is depressing and also in most cases, is sucking confidence from man.

Dating girls and having sex with them is not hard if you don't give a sh1t about possible rejections and if you don't get emotionaly attached.
 

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Being hooked on porn is depressing and also in most cases, is sucking confidence from man.

Dating girls and having sex with them is not hard if you don't give a sh1t about possible rejections and if you don't get emotionaly attached.
Agreed.

And if you dont mind having sex with girls you dont even want to have sex with.
 

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Some guys just need to bite the bullet and forget about women entirely. Use porn and sex gadgets to get you off and find manly hobbies like mountaineering, dirtbiking, sailing etc to make life worth living. Also get a dog.
loll what makes you say this?
This sounds sad and I don’t wanna do this, if this was some weird reverse psychology trick to motivate me to upgrade myself it worked lol
 

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Long term celibacy is worse.
That's what ive thought several times too, but each time ive agreed with that suggestion, ive ended up regretting it. I know out of experience that for me, celibacy is better than lowering the bar to women i dont want to interact or have sex with.
 
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It's not.... I'm telling you. A man will lose a certain part of his masculinity with long term celibacy. Even sex with women you are not attracted to will rejuvenate this masculinity. This coming from a 12 year volcel.
 

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If I'm ever in a college town, I know there are almost always tons of honies at the bars and on campus. Aside from minor dust-ups in the past between clueless PUA's and campus security, college campuses have always been great if you are discrete enough and basically socially normal (which sadly and obviously most pua's are not).

Unfortunately, most campuses are now "closed" or at least restricted meaning you cannot access any building or event without a mask and/or vax card/phone code.

Several local bars have either closed down or have scaled back hours significantly so "bar hopping" is scaled down or no longer happening. In larger metro areas, you also need to mask and have vax "proof" to access businesses indoors.

Meetup has scaled back at least 70% or more for in-person meetups.

I don't bother with swipe apps, but most report they are full of bots, spam and attention seekers, with occasional -4 SMV dates at best.

Not only have the quantity of social events taken a severe hit, but the quality has dipped precipitously: what's the point of going to a park of 90% of the people are wearing masks and sunglasses? That's just sick and bizarre.

There was a small respite this summer but it was as short as a couple of weeks or a month as most large cities and even entire states are fake mandating masks again.

So back to the question, what reasons do we have to be optimistic about dating in the near future?
of course, there is. the game board is being changed again. figure it out, and clean up before others do.

be the internet of the news business. look what happened to the newspapers... look what happened to the internet.... be the internet, figure it out.
 

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And if you dont mind having sex with girls you dont even want to have sex with.
Why would anyone want to do this, since by definition it's something you don't want to do?
The only reasons I can think of is as a learning experience, or if you're throwing yourself on a grenade for a friend. And I'm not so sure those are even good reasons.
 

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And if you dont mind having sex with girls you dont even want to have sex with.
+1.

This is what this whole site is about. Guys on Sosuave want to have sex with hot, fertile, young girls between 20-29. But they have to know that generally, these women go for the alpha men in their 20s. The tall, dark, handsome, rich, whatever. There may be some guys in here who argue this and say all you need is game or good body or they have a friend who is none of those things and has hot girls banging their door, but I’m talking in general terms. Why do think porn sells so easily? Hot, fertile women doing anything the “average” man wants.

I can’t think of one hot women in Hollywood who got famous by taking off her clothes AFTER 30, and then got married, had children, and is still married. Before 30 if they take off their clothes on the movie screen they can still get married and get pregnant. After 30? Not so much.

Can someone please prove me wrong?
 

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Why would anyone want to do this, since by definition it's something you don't want to do?
The only reasons I can think of is as a learning experience, or if you're throwing yourself on a grenade for a friend. And I'm not so sure those are even good reasons.
Always keep some guaranteed Pvssy.
when the drought hits you will be covered.
 

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Guys on Sosuave want to have sex with hot, fertile, young girls between 20-29.
That's what I want.

But they have to know that generally, these women go for the alpha men in their 20s. The tall, dark, handsome, rich, whatever. There may be some guys in here who argue this and say all you need is game or good body or they have a friend who is none of those things and has hot girls banging their door, but I’m talking in general terms. Why do think porn sells so easily? Hot, fertile women doing anything the “average” man wants.
In my 30s, I have not self-improved enough to seduce the hot, fertile, young ones. I have had sex with some attractive 30 somethings but it's not the same.

So back to the question, what reasons do we have to be optimistic about dating in the near future?
Not much. If you can repeat on some pre-pandemic plates or have a solid LTR, you're in a good place.
 

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Some guys just need to bite the bullet and forget about women entirely. Use porn and sex gadgets to get you off and find manly hobbies like mountaineering, dirtbiking, sailing etc to make life worth living. Also get a dog.
Not everyones wants to go MGTOW, physical and emotional intimacy with the opposite sex is very important to humans
 

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Why would anyone want to do this, since by definition it's something you don't want to do?
The only reasons I can think of is as a learning experience, or if you're throwing yourself on a grenade for a friend. And I'm not so sure those are even good reasons.
Breaking a dry spell is a good reason.
 

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Why would anyone want to do this, since by definition it's something you don't want to do?
The only reasons I can think of is as a learning experience, or if you're throwing yourself on a grenade for a friend. And I'm not so sure those are even good reasons.
One reason is that you only figured it out after the fact. Before, you thought that sex in itself was enough to make it worth it, but after enough experiences you learned that it wasnt. Post-cvm clarity also reinforced it.
 
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What do you do when women don’t want to have sex with you and prostitution is illegal where you live?
 
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