Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Is there a golden rule for the amount of time to get sex?

TheNonPedant

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Been dating this girl for 2 weeks....make out....but no sex....she don't even get naked

My girl roomate says that 2 weeks is fast....some girls need more time

What do you guys think is the grace period before sex should happen while dating someone?

I thought 2 weeks was pretty long...

Opinions appreciated
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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OddTech

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Hey, I'm in the exact same situation. It's been two weeks, and even making-out (2nd base?) with this one girl is slow getting to. I'm her 2nd guy she ever dated before.

My thought with this situation is to keep chugging slowly and making the moves while looking for other prospects as well. I will put a certain time limit on my situation ... if by a time she doesn't open up, then I have no choice but to dump her. I can't wait forever, ya know. But since I have other prospects now, she's in the back-burner, and I'm in no hurry.

I don't think there is a certain time limit. Remember that most girls want sex just as much as guys. So if she's holding out sex, it could be legitimate, but it could be because she is using it as leverage. You have to take this girl's background into account. Is she an overly-moral type? Is she religious? How old is she? Based on that, you can judge how long to wait. I admit I'm more patient, so my maximum waiting time has been 3 months.
 

Walden

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3rd date.

Otherwise (unless she's special) you could lay four girls who like to party in the amount of time it'll take you to f*** close this one.

If it fizzes at date three I LJBF them (but keep up the kino on subsequent meetings) saying I tend to only go for girls who are super-confident (which is the truth).

Genrally speaking I'll lay them that night or on the next date.
 

princelydeeds

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The question is how long are you willing to wait? I have one chick it took me a year to bone and we still don't do it regularly. She is very religious and her heart was in the right place. I'm not the fall in love type but if I were she would probably be a good match for me. I hated waiting but I was willing to wait because she is special to me.

I will bone most broads on the first night and Im not willing to wait more than 2 or 3 dates.
 

dietzcoi

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Somewhere between first date and nine years is probably the correct answer! :)

Thenonpendant: Why are you asking a WOMAN (girl roommate)for advice on this? Haven't you learned from this board, that is the most useless thing you could do?

Dietzcoi
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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