Is talking Femine?

[kavi]

Casanova was technically a confidence trickster/ scam artist.
Check his Wikipedia.
Sure he seduced their minds, of course..but not to benefit them. He used them to advance himself.
He was a user.

yes a seducer enjoys women and the game with women.
Like your friend they most are ‘ mischievous’ ..
but also could be considered also high social IQ Machiavellian types.

They love mind games. And the mind game of playing a woman really. Making a woman chase them and fall in love with them.
And playing games with/on everyone. I’ve noticed that in a lot of dudes I’ve met IRL.

I would say real seducers, the most successful ones are high in Dark Triad traits.

does all that mean they ‘love ‘ women?
no , not really. They love playing with power. Playing with people and winning /advancing their own interests is at the core of it.

Most of them are manipulators and users is the reality. My Brazilian friend was that. A renowned user.

so it’s not really about ‘loving women’ -moreso loving power.

And for a handsome man.. Women are easier targets than men to play the power game with.

my take on it.

This is why I do roll my eyes at some of the seduction tips out there. ( and in this forum)
As it’s a dirty and crafty business really.. real seduction.

Bro you seem cool i dont wanna make more enemies, rather friends but imo...

the ,ain point is...all this don juan stuff, the idea sleazy manipulators dishonest guys get the most sex it may have been true but that is only the in the marriage system which had its own dynamics and in those days most men and women didnt socialise freely, it was a tradifional cutlure and so it was mostly the liars cheaters and don juans who had the time and energy and ability to socialise and get women as for most 'normal' decent men and women it was frowned upon to be seen with different women being romantic etc most decent men in those days were honest men workers professsinals etc they didnt have time to socialise with different women..

So what im saying in todays world where it is open, like in animals, say chimps or whaetver, its not sleazy. short term, liars or manipulators will get the most, it is just the most competent men full stop but he can have many skills like what you have.

What im saying is that the women have this idea a man should be a nice guy maybe like what bexcellent is saying but then as i say these todays world chad from tinder is getting too much and there is all this bs so its true females are giving the most sex to hookups so im not sure how on-point beexcellent post is but i think the truth is the middle..

but i mentioned to you pimp game now there is room in the world for this...but it requires a higher skillset than don juan skillset..
a pimp aims to keep girls long term and in my vesion of pimp game obivously men would not be making their girls into hoes literally but you will get lots of benefits from keeping girls long term and ofcrouse you will not be monogomous

As soon as we remove the traditional sysyem, monogamy and all that you wil find its not don juan who gets laid the most its the Pimp, |Alpha Male etc he is like the most competent male, can talk, do math, organise, be calm, be tough bsaiclly someon is good overall like a ceo can do technical as well as emotional work