"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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hottiedoggie

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Hey guys, i just stumbled upon this forum and was wondering if you guys could help me out.

There is this girl that im (quite?) close to, initially i had not interest in her but she initiated the first move. So the story goes as such: I created a group for the catholics in my school as there werent many of us, she was also in that group, i got to know her through a friend. She used to be very talkative in that group but it all changed when i started talking to her. Apparently my friends from that group said that she was using the group to talk to me. Yeah we talked and started hanging out, studying, watching movies etc. thats when i developed feelings for her. I asked her if she wants to go on an official date with me but she rejected me saying that dont we go out often? I took that as a rejection and i stopped talking to her for a period of time. A month later she asked whether it was to late to have that date and she claimed she is very flicked minded. So we went on that date and everything was back to normal. I think i took too long to ask her to be my girl as she rejected me a few months later. We are still hanging out and it seems that she is interested in me since she texted me alot. Also whenever we are out, she would always bump into me, idk if that is counted as a kino.


She claims we have a complicated relationship

sorry for the wall of text! :crazy:
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Alvafe

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I bet on no one else.....


you should just kiss her and stop the over thinking, with all you haging out and you asked for a offcial date (bleh never do that again.....), she though you was already doing that.

if she really like you just kiss her, and not in the cheek, if she don't let you or give any excuse, stop losing time with her, only complication is your lack of initiative, if you wait a woman do that for you will die a virgin.
 

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Catholic girls are crazy anyway. Too many mixed messages about sex. Plus the catholic view of God is silly and unbelievable.

Move the relationship forward. Get one on one and start kino.
 

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LongLostFriend said:
Who else are you dating?
i aint dating with anyone, rest assured i dont think she is in control of me. I talk to other girls too.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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LearningSlowly said:
Catholic girls are crazy anyway. Too many mixed messages about sex. Plus the catholic view of God is silly and unbelievable.

Move the relationship forward. Get one on one and start kino.
haha im from singapore so girls here are not that crazy. i will try my best:up:
 

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You should date others. It isn't about control. It is about creating attraction through preselection and not developing oneitis.
 

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Oh, also, she always asked me to like her instagram photo, when i dont like her photo, she will complain about it and sometimes even take my phone to like her photo. It makes me wonder, is she seeking attention?
 

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hottiedoggie said:
Oh, also, she always asked me to like her instagram photo, when i dont like her photo, she will complain about it and sometimes even take my phone to like her photo. It makes me wonder, is she seeking attention?
Obviously, yes. Don't let her control you like that. How is she "taking your phone"? You are letting her have your phone. I would stop that if I were you.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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LongLostFriend said:
Obviously, yes. Don't let her control you like that. How is she "taking your phone"? You are letting her have your phone. I would stop that if I were you.
Well, I can't be bother if she takes my phone. I mean it's just a phone. :crazy:
 

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Nino-Tk said:
She seems like the validation seeking kinda woman, don't get sucked into those manipulative games player.
So how do I tackle this kind of girls?
 

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He just said dont get sucked in, and you asked how to handle her.

If you need to ask, you can't handle her. It takes dominance and complete knowledge that you are more valuable and you are the prize. If you don't have a grasp on that yet, even if you get some success, it'll end badly for you.
 

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Ok a quick update, had been avoiding her, making myself busy etc. Right now she asked me out to study, but i rejected her once before agreeing. However, half way through studying, she had to leave. She apologized through SMS, i replied asking her what she was gonna do to make it up to me.

Her next reply caught me off-guard.

She said that nothing, cause i didnt do anything for her.

Which i replied this, "tell you what, i have a pair of free movie tickets to any show, you up for it? If not I will ask someone else." she replied : "im kidding you dont have to, its ok, bring like a bro!".

I replied her "That would be gay, its free pair of tixs, i would have to use it. Tell me by tonight, if not i would just ask someone out." Was i a little too aggressive?
 

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tell me why you cave in?

and she was with you tehn leaves and apologize in a sms? you shouldn't even answer that, pretty much she said to i'm too busy to deal with you but I don't want to look like a bad person so I will apologize over the phone.

disrespect, AW, she is not interested in you (that answers your first question)

gonna say again stop losing time with her, she invite you to study say no.

and just think that she asked you to study, so I consider you are helping her to study, and she don't consider that you doing something for her? do I need to say it again?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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"Bring like a bro". I'm assuming she means bring a friend of yours. Which translates into she doesn't want to be by herself with you. Could be lack of attraction, who knows.
And nah you weren't too aggressive, though I do think the "if not i would just ask someone else out" line wasn't necessary. If your trying to make it seem like you got a fountain of girls to choose from if she doesn't accept, that's not the way to do it.

Alvafe basically has it right. I don't think she her Gina' gets wet for you. So...next.
 

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A friend of mine told me that I should wait till our exams are over before making her move on her. They also said that it is damn bloody obvious that she likes me since I'm pretty much the only guy that she's close to and she's ways surrounded by girls. Although I find their reason quite stupid.

She seems to show IOI for me. Should I just stay low first and wait till my exams are over?
 

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read what I said, you shouldn't talk with her again, let her start things now, but most of time you are busy
 

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Nope, im not helping her with her studies. Most of the time she is the one asking to study. She told me that her mum knows me because she "tells her probably everything" about me. quoted from her.

She even offered to teach me math when i told her im terrible in a certain topic. She seems interested yet she doesnt.
 
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It amazes me how people talk about prizes, that the man is the prize - the women seems to be the ultimate prize!

You are creating value in yourself so that she becomes attracted. You are basically saying that she is the ultimate value. Simply understand the female-male dynamic: we want things that we have a possibility of having, the higher the value, the more attraction there is. As a woman, I will advice you to go straight there and tell her: you are attractive, i would like to have a sexual relationship with you, if you're not interested, then gtfo. dot.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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