- Mar 26, 2020
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After you guys pointing out that tattoos are a red flag, I thought the one between her breasts could be a sign of insecurity because they are small.Tat between breasts and near other private areas is an easy giveaway a woman's a wh0re. Tattoos and piercings are for showing off. No one wants to hide artwork. I take it she's shown her tits to who the **** knows how many guys and probably didn't stop there.
Why isn't it possible for her to feel nothing for them?And her feelings gone for both of them simultaneously?
She either got numb from depression and it's going to come back really hard or she is lying.
I think it's important to give women a chance. Many of the men here, including myself, have changed a lot - worked through a lot of stuff and changed our mindsets, improved ourselves, etc. It IS possible for women to do the same thing.
However, having said that, I would say there is probably a 1% chance this girl has done any work to improve herself. Have you asked her if she's done any work on herself?
You mean fun playing with the 2 of them?It might just be fun for her.
Thank you for your words and your time brother.One of the best ways to increase self-esteem and deservedness is to volunteer for a charity or cause that serves those who have less than you. It's the self-less giving/gifting of one's time (expecting nothing in return) that shifts something deep internally. This shift allows for 'more' good to flow into one's life with ease, flow and grace.
May you experience good fortune.
Yvw.You mean fun playing with the 2 of them?
Like she felt nothing and just had fun in a situation like this?
Thank you for your words and your time brother.
The truth is that's what I wanted to do. Take her at point 0, and decide how to act based on how she treats me. But... There are a ton of red flags, it would be stupid to ignore them.
I have my path in life. I have found my balance of working towards my goals and having fun. It's not that I am focused on women. They are just a compliment.
The reason I put so much time in this 5th plate is first, because she really caught my attention and second, due to the Coronavirus outbreak I have a ton of free time.
So why not get the most out of a situation?
Be it experience, knowledge, a greater understanding about women in general?
Now for the part I quoted, I respectfully disagree. I don't believe that there is giving without taking back.
I agree that we shouldn't except something in return.
But for me helping or giving something should be done because I get pleasure from doing so. So there should be something in me that really wants to do it.
Wouldn't any other reason be hypocrisy?
Exactly that!Never try to fix a chick... she has to fix herself... and if she knows she has to fix herself to be with you, if she loves you... she will do this, and be a better person for the effort.
To expand on @RangerMIke 's point, do not let her use sex as a currency. Just because she gives you amazing sex and let's you do whatever is meaningless for an LTR. For a woman to qualify as LTR material she needs many other qualities that will enrich your life. Good sex can be developed and taught, it's not some rare thing.@RangerMIke
... and everyone else...
Words can't express my gratitude guys.
Thank you, really thank you for your help.
You are the voice of reason and experience that I needed and should hear.
In the end, if she is has changed and everything goes well she ll be an awesome addition to my life.
If not, NEXT and I am no worse than before her.
It would be great if anyone of you would like to analyze the story and her behavior more, so we can extract as much knowledge as possible out of this for everyone to learn.
Once again, thank you guys!
Very powerful people do this.To expand on @RangerMIke 's point, do not let her use sex as a currency. Just because she gives you amazing sex and let's you do whatever is meaningless for an LTR. For a woman to qualify as LTR material she needs many other qualities that will enrich your life. Good sex can be developed and taught, it's not some rare thing.
You have to be incredibly strong with these women because if you spend too much time fuucking them you'll neglect your own life and become weak willed as a result. You have to be strong enough to decline sex sometimes AND walk if she makes a big deal about it or cheats/lies. You have to be able to risk losing her to maintain your principles, no exceptions. When the sex is good guys make too many exceptions and it undermines their moral foundation. The guilt they feel later from bringing it upon themselves only compounds the issue. Don't let that happen, be solid with your boundaries. It's fine to be generous but always keep yourself in check. If you feel she's not appreciative then pull back and focus on yourself until you can give freely again. If she leaves then clearly she doesn't have the empathy to understand and support your position, nothing lost.
Rationally this woman is not LTR material and unless she goes to counseling and maintains a healthy lifestyle indefinitely she will not change. She may be able to keep up the act for a few months, but when you notice her slipping back into old ways or when your gut tells you she's losing interest, let her go.
And don't be stupid about her letting you cuum inside her. If she gets pregnant and doesn't want to abort and you're not ready for a kid you are fuucked. She'll have the kid and go back to the CC, meanwhile she'll suck your money and time endlessly through the conduit of the child. Is the feeling of a creampie really worth such trouble for the rest of your life? Just bust on her face or something.
You've been seeing her a month and already had heated arguments, what does that tell you?
Have your fun, and even an STR is fine but always keep your eyes peeled for real LTR material. And again, don't let exceptions to your principles keep you from walking or from dismissing her. It takes a strong resolve to dismiss good sex for more intangible things like peace of mind.
LTR material will always stand by your side and not constantly try to start drama. She didn't break up with guys because she enjoys the drama, it's all she has. when the good attention dries up she will look for attention in any form, good or bad. She cried while telling you because she wants to look like the victim despite her doing it all to herself. She knows she has problems and is actively avoiding them, and she's gotten very good at it, which is really dangerous for anyone that gets involved with her.
When a person becomes very good at lying and let's it consume their life they start to deceive themselves, believing their own lies. It can be very convincing.