Is sex sacred to women at any point?

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So Austria Dik ( a redpill YouTube) claims that sex holds very little significance to a women. Giving her body away is equal to an elbow massage or hand shake. I would disagree. I would say that most women start off viewing sex as special. What happens is after that first guy who Alpha widows them, then they disconnect love from sex. This is the definition of a whure. A women who has completely disconnected love from sex.

I may be wrong though because I had a convo with my cousins. This was years ago. I was advising them to not be whures. I told them that the first guy is special. One told me that she didn't feel any type of special connection with the first guy. She just wanted to get it over with to finally experience sex. Now she a hoe to high status men/ rich men.

I have my viewpoint is because I grew up in an era where the older guys told me that after sex you have the girls heart. My old heads and my dad told me to not abuse her emotions after sleeping with her. Dad said before sex she has the power, after sex you do. That may just have been late 90's blue pill conditioning though.
 

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Trying to find something general that applies to women is futile. Some women view sex as special connected to love. Some women lose that view after being hurt by some a-hole. Some women never had that view to begin with. To some women sex is important, to others not so much.

Some men view sex as special connected to love. Some men lose that view after being hurt by some b!tch. Some men never had that view to begin with. To most men sex is important, to a few not so much.

Only difference I see is that men are more addicted to sex and willing to accept more sh!t to get it. Doesn't mean women value sex less, perhaps they just value the quality of said sex more.

Either way, generalizing is unhelpful and doesn't reflect reality. Recognizing significant differences within a group (who shares one or few major attributes i.e. being female) and compartmentalizing it into more detailed subcategories is more useful and intelligent.
 

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I knew baptist women who were verified virgins until their 20's as it was sacred to them.
 

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Well it is true that women enjoy sex as much as guys do , but in the same time since sex is always on the plate for them they can choose to be picky about it . For this reason , they see sex more than just sex and a lot of women are quite careful about this .

They will not just go and **** everyone out there , even though there are cases that are doing so

I found this article quite good

 

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Statistically, the earlier a man or woman engages in Sex, the more they will enjoy it and accommodate it into their schedule in a more priority way.
 

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It has more significance for them because they don't want to give it to any guy. They want to give it the " special " guy. That's just a high value male nothing more. Not a fcking prince on a horse or a romantic beta. Just a high value male. Could be some alpha bad boy or some high status mature man.
They are the selective sex that's why they say sex is special/sacred.
 

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And i would add that women use this argument to string along the beta chump when it comes to sex. They dont wanna give it up so quickly because they are not aroused by him + the argument " sex is sacred for me, i only sleep with the special one" makes the chump believe that the girl is a fcking unicorn with a low notch count :D
 

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And i would add that women use this argument to string along the beta chump when it comes to sex. They dont wanna give it up so quickly because they are not aroused by him + the argument " sex is sacred for me, i only sleep with the special one" makes the chump believe that the girl is a fcking unicorn with a low notch count :D
that is why it is very important to go for sex first ,and After that for a relationship , otherwise you will miss a lot of red flags ( because you are horny and want to have sex with her )

basically not escalating to sex As fast as possible is shooting your self in the foot
 

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I would say that most women start off viewing sex as special.
It depends what age they are in their lives. If they are 16, they are in love and it’s special. If they are 34, they are practical and it’s about getting pregnant quickly.

Everything a woman does depends on her priorities at the time.

I have my viewpoint is because I grew up in an era where the older guys told me that after sex you have the girls heart. My old heads and my dad told me to not abuse her emotions after sleeping with her. Dad said before sex she has the power, after sex you do. That may just have been late 90's blue pill conditioning though.
Its NEVER about capturing their heart or having power. For a girl, it’s ALL about use. Some of the hot girls I’ve had sex with turned out to be the most manipulative, sneaky, tricky, underhanded people you’ll ever meet. Why? Because I was no longer USEFUL to them. When a man is no longer useful for a girl, the games begin in full force, even after sex.

A woman will get turned on and have sex with an alpha man and a beta man.

a) Sex with an alpha man comes from a primitive sexual desirous place, she gives it to him because of her basic instincts.

b) Sex with the beta man comes from a purely transactional place, she gives it to him in exchange for his resources.

Men, you always want to be (a), never aim to be (b)
 

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It depends what age they are in their lives. If they are 16, they are in love and it’s special. If they are 34, they are practical and it’s about getting pregnant quickly.

Everything a woman does depends on her priorities at the time.



Its NEVER about capturing their heart or having power. For a girl, it’s ALL about use. Some of the hot girls I’ve had sex with turned out to be the most manipulative, sneaky, tricky, underhanded people you’ll ever meet. Why? Because I was no longer USEFUL to them. When a man is no longer useful for a girl, the games begin in full force, even after sex.

A woman will get turned on and have sex with an alpha man and a beta man.

a) Sex with an alpha man comes from a primitive sexual desirous place, she gives it to him because of her basic instincts.

b) Sex with the beta man comes from a purely transactional place, she gives it to him in exchange for his resources.

Men, you always want to be (a), never aim to be (b)
Yeh....i like this post. Good way to clarify things. The man that has a.) and b.) qualities is a demi god. Some would argue that it is better to be b.) Beta guy. They say its more reliable. I dont have money so I rely on a.) but as my looks fade it will get harder to do.

Like Lil Wayne said " why give a bytch ya heart when she rather have a purse".
 

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For any guy who's got experience with women, he knows that sex is a deeply emotional thing for a women, and it's deeply psychological for her - it's not just about the P in V.
100% disagree. There are two sides to every woman—the PR version that needs to have security and emotional investment and a special connection before and after sex and the side of her that will have depraved NSA sex with no investment and no connection. Just two different responses to different sets of emotional triggers. Solipsism ensures that these two competing drives can exist in the same woman without her suffering from cognitive dissonance—both sides are honest in that moment.

Woman can quite easily go without sex.
But they don’t. The PR version just pretends this is the case. I’d wager that, on average, women have far more sex—both in terms of partners and frequency—than 99% of men.

Sex for women is primarily a means to an end, which is securing a high value male. Sex for men is usually just an end in itself.
Except that women will have sex with you much more quickly when she knows you won’t commit and when she knows you aren’t bf material. Two competing drives.

A common, private lament of sexually liberated feminists who celebrate the c0ck carousel lifestyle is that casual sex hurts them, and that it's unfair that men are not hurt by casual sex.
Only when they don’t get what they want. Just another way of playing the victim. But if you gave them a chance to do it over, they’d make the exact same decisions as they did the first time around—attraction is not a choice.

each guy that pumps and dumps her is a tax on her soul.
Lol. Pure male fantasy to perpetuate the Madonna/Wh0re fallacy—just two sides of the same coin. Different girls have different levels of inhibition and fear of judgement and different social influences, but overall it all comes down to the kind of man you are. If you’re 100% comfortable about sex and nonjudgmental, you’ll see a very different side of women from the rest of the world. The women in your life will attach as much meaning to sex as you do.
 

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Interesting responses. You have my attention ;) I've respond to each of your responses in bold above.
this is why how many partners she had before is quite important if you want to gauge If she is girlfriend material or not :)

the only way for her to be somehow sincere about this is after you had sex for the first time ,without giving a boyfriend material vibe or perceiving you judgemental

each additional guy that a woman has sex with is raising her infidelity risk for future guys , and the more she starts separating sex from love .

basically , the more partners a woman has the less it starts to be something sacred for her , till the point where she just sees sex just as pleasure ( like guys do )

sure , you will always have outliers , but usually this is how it goes for most women .

I recently met with the girl that I lost my virginity with ( she was a virgin too ) . I was quite shocked to see how she changed since how I remembered her , as she added more partners :)
 
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this is why how many partners she had before is quite important if you want to gauge If she is girlfriend material or not :)

the only way for her to be somehow sincere about this is after you had sex for the first time ,without giving a boyfriend material vibe or perceiving you judgemental

each additional guy that a woman has sex with is raising her infidelity risk for future guys , and the more she starts separating sex from love .

basically , the more partners a woman has the less it starts to be something sacred for her , till the point where she just sees sex just as pleasure ( like guys do )

sure , you will always have outliers , but usually this is how it goes for most women .

I recently met with the girl that I lost my virginity with ( she was a virgin too ) . I was quite shocked to see how she changed since how I remembered her , as she added more partners :)
After the additional partners she likely became hard to be around. It's something about the energy.
 

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After the additional partners she likely became hard to be around. It's something about the energy.
Like a "porcupine"... The pump and dumps each stripped the comfort and pleasure and being around her, and eventually replaced that kinder shell with porcupine spikes, and each additional pump and dump after this point added another spike to her shell.
 

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After the additional partners she likely became hard to be around. It's something about the energy.
yep , I remember her being lively , innocent and sparkling eyes , in present day is not the case . Plus she has a cold stare now that just give me the creeps :)

And I see this consistent across women . The ones that I know have a low partner count still keep this traits , while others that have a high partner just lack this
 

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I think "failure to pair bond" and "alpha widow" are two of the most overrated concepts in the manosphere.

If a woman stays a virgin until 35, she's not going to be magically well-adjusted to pair bonding with a man, any more than a woman of the same age with an average notch count. This is red pill projection, the same as when feminists call men "fukk boys" or "Peter Pans."

I say this as a man who loves young women. Why? They look hotter, are fertile, and we know that they emit pheromones that are irresistible. For these reasons alone, most will have had a massive head start on sex over boys or men their age.

Furthermore, I believe (though I don't speak for everyone) that sex diminishes in importance for men AND women as experience goes up. At least for those of us who can go out and get it regularly. I mean I constantly see threads right here on SS declaring something like "banging lots of women but feeling empty." There's one that was started last week.

It loses its mystery over time...which is probably why we men like to recapture the novelty of having sex with a young woman. But believe me, if there's a c0ck carousel, there's also a pu$$y carousel. Not saying it's a bad thing - we should all do what makes us happy.

As for "alpha widow," don't kid yourselves, gents. Most females will have at least fukked one Alpha (relative to her SMV) before she's fukked you. Some just can't move on, which is a red flag, but not some mystical spell. Unless you were the alpha ;) then okay.
I agree with you till a point .

the problem is that in the case of a virgin at 35 it just means that she is low value ( not good looking ) which in return will make her a horrible partner to bond with , as she has a ****load of insecurities .

but let”s say that we talk only about average and upwards girls , it is impossible to be a virgin at way older age than the average age when girls start their sexual lives .

the thing with the diminishing the value of sex I do not think it has to do with what you have mentioned , but more that she just brakes away from the matrix ( the fairly tale about soul mates , love and stuff like that ) which makes her bitter at the beginning and then just sees sex as sex .

the reality is that in order for a woman to bond properly she must not loose the idea of this soul mate fairy tale :)

I have never seen a woman with a “ dark past “ that properly managed to bond with a guy , unless she wanted something explocit from him and saw the relationship as sex for whatever she wanted from him
 

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So Austria Dik ( a redpill YouTube) claims that sex holds very little significance to a women. Giving her body away is equal to an elbow massage or hand shake. I would disagree. I would say that most women start off viewing sex as special. What happens is after that first guy who Alpha widows them, then they disconnect love from sex. This is the definition of a whure. A women who has completely disconnected love from sex.

I may be wrong though because I had a convo with my cousins. This was years ago. I was advising them to not be whures. I told them that the first guy is special. One told me that she didn't feel any type of special connection with the first guy. She just wanted to get it over with to finally experience sex. Now she a hoe to high status men/ rich men.

I have my viewpoint is because I grew up in an era where the older guys told me that after sex you have the girls heart. My old heads and my dad told me to not abuse her emotions after sleeping with her. Dad said before sex she has the power, after sex you do. That may just have been late 90's blue pill conditioning though.
I don't listen to red pill cucked channels. If they don't approach, it's just cucking and jargon. It's nonsense of the channel to suggest that.

Sex may hold value for her before she has sex. Girls are starting very young. Utilise sex for money and rope in some guy. High value men don't wait. It holds little value women you have options. Its again why men must chase excellence. Purpose must take precedence.
 

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yep , I remember her being lively , innocent and sparkling eyes , in present day is not the case . Plus she has a cold stare now that just give me the creeps :)

And I see this consistent across women . The ones that I know have a low partner count still keep this traits , while others that have a high partner just lack this
I have to agree with you in my experience as well. I caution you about the idealism though as girls under 18 have stupid high kill count as gross as it is. Modern women break 100 + before 25.
 

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I have to agree with you in my experience as well. I caution you about the idealism though as girls under 18 have stupid high kill count as gross as it is. Modern women break 100 + before 25.
never heard this one before . I think that is an exaggeration . From what I Know the median count for sex partners is 9 global , which means that 50% had less than 9 partners and more 50% more than 9 . The big countries were feminism is more powerful the median is at 10- 11 .

the funny thing is that usually the average and ugly ones have a higher notch on average when compared to the high value women

women have a lower notch count in all the studies by half :)

100 partners is top
 
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