"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Is sex overrated ?

andreihaha

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I wonder: given some of the responses why some folks are on a pickup forum. I assume the “sex is overrated” crowd is black-pill. I may be wrong.

Why be on a board dedicated to getting guys laid if you don’t value it?
Being suave doesn't imply just getting your penis stuck in random chicks.
Some prefer quality over quantity.
I don't think sex is the end game for the successful SoSuave user.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Nobody said anything about quality va quantity- you just added it to the discussion - the discussion is about sex being overrated.

If you feel bad for banging fugs then up your game and get better tail.

The chicks I bang and enjoy are hot by my standards, after all I’m the one banging.

that is all.

p.s. read the homepage of the site- count the articles about how to bang a gal. I’d say it’s a good bet a majority of the site population is those upping their game so they can get laid.

Being suave doesn't imply just getting your penis stuck in random chicks.
Some prefer quality over quantity.
I don't think sex is the end game for the successful SoSuave user.
 
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p.s. read the homepage of the site- count the articles about how to bang a gal. I’d say it’s a good bet a majority of the site population is those upping their game so they can get laid.
I totally agree, all I'm saying is that getting laid isn't the only reason to be here. And there is also a lot more to be found in here. That's why not everyone will agree when it comes to the importance of sex.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I think everyone is right. Because it comes and goes. I m lucky because my Mrs thinks it's an important duty and she loves her work. Some weeks it's all work work and Mrs is lucky if she gets 5 grunts from me. Sometimes I decree road trip/get away and we re at it like bunnies
 

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Input from the old lady:

I concur with @Howiestern and @Fruitbat on this one although all the points are valid. My marriage relationship never got stale in 20 years and we were at it almost daily, often twice a day. Once in a while thrice.

The beauty of an LTR where desire resides is that ability to be honest about what really turns you on and having a partner who is on board with that.

Thing is building the required level of trust takes time and thus the sexual experience can deepen and improve in through time.

Sex with my fiancé is improving in this way as we progress. He doesn’t need to perform for me, he doesn’t need to stress about whether he’s impressing me or not…I think he looks magnificent naked and this inherent desire (which he also has for me) is the fuel that allows passion to burn. Sometimes it smolders, sometimes it’s a conflagration, but this is why desire is key.

For me, good or great sex with a beloved partner never gets old. It may get weird or funny or kinky or just plain hot, but never NEVER old. I will say too that I have a very high libido. I never say no to my man & at times want it more than he does.

Cheers.
 

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My marriage relationship never got stale in 20 years and we were at it almost daily, often twice a day. Once in a while thrice.
I'm not sure how that happened. It's typical for bedrooms to go dead a few years into a marriage, typically about 5-7 years into a relationship. The fact that you went 10+ without dead bedroom syndrome is an achievement. It's so intriguing that a relationship that wasn't a "dead bedroom relationship" ended. Also keeping up that sex frequency after children are born is an achievement.

For me, good or great sex with a beloved partner never gets old. It may get weird or funny or kinky or just plain hot, but never NEVER old. I will say too that I have a very high libido. I never say no to my man & at times want it more than he does.
I'm sure you have female friends. Do you ever notice that your libido is significantly higher than that of your female friends? Your libido might be why you've never had the "dead bedroom syndrome". It's also an achievement that you have a high libido and have had a high libido during the last 10 years, which is a menopausal/post menopausal phase of life.
 

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Not out of the ordinary. I can count 4 girlfriends I’ve had that possessed reactive desire, and never - ever turned me down - even not feeling great, dead tired, stressed ALWAYS AVAILABLE. In their 40’s.

That’s normal behavior for a woman who is happy with her man.

My 10 year marriage was this way too.


Input from the old lady:

I concur with @Howiestern and @Fruitbat on this one although all the points are valid. My marriage relationship never got stale in 20 years and we were at it almost daily, often twice a day. Once in a while thrice.

The beauty of an LTR where desire resides is that ability to be honest about what really turns you on and having a partner who is on board with that.

Thing is building the required level of trust takes time and thus the sexual experience can deepen and improve in through time.

Sex with my fiancé is improving in this way as we progress. He doesn’t need to perform for me, he doesn’t need to stress about whether he’s impressing me or not…I think he looks magnificent naked and this inherent desire (which he also has for me) is the fuel that allows passion to burn. Sometimes it smolders, sometimes it’s a conflagration, but this is why desire is key.

For me, good or great sex with a beloved partner never gets old. It may get weird or funny or kinky or just plain hot, but never NEVER old. I will say too that I have a very high libido. I never say no to my man & at times want it more than he does.

Cheers.
 
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