"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Is "pick up game" played out?

sosocool

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How many years has seduction/pick up technique and mindset been taught?

How many guys have learned it?

How many guys have used it?

How many girls has it been used on?

This makes you wonder...

Do what the gurus teach even work anymore?

If there are 10 guys on the planet, and 10 girls, and 8 of the guys use the same "game" on those 10 girls then the other two guys use no game, who do you think will get the girls?

just saying...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

zekko

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I've wondered this myself. The thing is, with the internet being so widespread now, this stuff is available to anybody who wants to know about it. If it gets to the point where all guys understand pickup, it sort of resets the field, doesn't it? But understanding it and executing it well are two different things.

What I really wonder is how many girls are aware of it? And if they are, does it affect the outcome at all? How many know what a neg is and recognize one when it is being used? Some guys just neg naturally though. I think it's probably best to stay away from routine based techniques and go more natural, build value and work on inner game and mindset.
 

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zekko said:
I think it's probably best to stay away from routine based techniques and go more natural, build value and work on inner game and mindset.
I agree. If you can get your inner game right (confidence exuding, charm switched on, positive and fun energy flowing, etc) then you might just come off as being unique, or better yet, original. But if everyone is being ****y or funny or asking stupid survey questions, and if there a lot of YOU in area x, with x amount of women, then you'll appear like everyone else. Kind of ironic if the reason you're learning game is to be different, ain't it?

we should probably ask ourselves how many of us are in x land with x amount of women and x amount of dudes using y method before using y method.

substitute x with accurate info and you know whether or not your should even bother with y method.

just saying....
 
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