"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Is OnlyFans Killing the Strip Club and Breastaurant?

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i read an article stating that the restaurant business /hospitality industry is down 22 percent due to zika the recession and covid anyways.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Here's my take from seeing strip clubs change the past 30yrs.

1. A lot of 80's rock bands promoted strip clubs in their music and videos. You don't have that anymore. Also the music back then was a great fit for strip clubs.

2. Strippers used to make their money off the stage. Some could actually dance. Most changed outfits thru out the night. It was about putting on a show. Now days they can't dance, they wear lame outfits and don't change. All the money is made off lap dances and hand jobs in the back. So it's attracted a different type of girl. If you don't want to get dirty you aren't going to make as much money unless you're really hot and hustler.

3. Entertaining is hard work, nobody is happy and in the mood to party 4-5 days a week. Only Fans is much easier and you have more control. You also don't deal with disrespectful customers. It's horrible some of the things guys try and get away with. Dating strippers and hearing their stories set me back a bit.

4. There are too many girls that don't look good naked these days. More fatties than ever before in the 20 something age group. The clubs are all using traveling dancers or bringing in foreign girls. Lots of dirty cuban girls dancing.

5. Groups of Businessmen used to frequent clubs on business trips/conventions. Now days corporations frown upon that.

6. There isn't as much money to be made. It wasnt uncommon in the 90's-2005 for girls to be able to afford nice Mercedes, BMW's,and Porsches. A lot of strippers had nice cars. A friend of mine was averaging $1500/nite back in early 2000's.
 

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1. A lot of 80's rock bands promoted strip clubs in their music and videos. You don't have that anymore. Also the music back then was a great fit for strip clubs.
There is truth on the connections to 1980s rock bands. However, a lot of hip hop of the last 20-25 years works for strip clubs too. It's been a long time since I've been to a strip club.

2. Strippers used to make their money off the stage. Some could actually dance. Most changed outfits thru out the night. It was about putting on a show. Now days they can't dance, they wear lame outfits and don't change. All the money is made off lap dances and hand jobs in the back. So it's attracted a different type of girl. If you don't want to get dirty you aren't going to make as much money unless you're really hot and hustler.

3. Entertaining is hard work, nobody is happy and in the mood to party 4-5 days a week. Only Fans is much easier and you have more control. You also don't deal with disrespectful customers. It's horrible some of the things guys try and get away with. Dating strippers and hearing their stories set me back a bit.
Good points. Though OnlyFans women might deal with internet bullying, internet trolls, and disrespectful online comments. The majority of OnlyFans women don't make enough off of OnlyFans to pay bills. They would still need another job, which could be stripping or a breastaurant.

4. There are too many girls that don't look good naked these days. More fatties than ever before in the 20 something age group. The clubs are all using traveling dancers or bringing in foreign girls. Lots of dirty cuban girls dancing.
This is a challenge for both strip clubs and breastaurants. At least with the breastaurants, the women aren't getting naked so it's slightly more forgiving. A woman can't be fat at either of those jobs.

6. There isn't as much money to be made. It wasnt uncommon in the 90's-2005 for girls to be able to afford nice Mercedes, BMW's,and Porsches. A lot of strippers had nice cars. A friend of mine was averaging $1500/nite back in early 2000's.
Strippers are also paying house fees for stage time.

Simps can do their simping from the comfort of their own home vs. the strip club. High speed internet connections were in fewer households in 1990-2005. It is healthier to see a stripper naked vs. online porn. A lot of simps don't realize that.
 

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There is truth on the connections to 1980s rock bands. However, a lot of hip hop of the last 20-25 years works for strip clubs too. It's been a long time since I've been to a strip club.


Good points. Though OnlyFans women might deal with internet bullying, internet trolls, and disrespectful online comments. The majority of OnlyFans women don't make enough off of OnlyFans to pay bills. They would still need another job, which could be stripping or a breastaurant.



This is a challenge for both strip clubs and breastaurants. At least with the breastaurants, the women aren't getting naked so it's slightly more forgiving. A woman can't be fat at either of those jobs.



Strippers are also paying house fees for stage time.

Simps can do their simping from the comfort of their own home vs. the strip club. High speed internet connections were in fewer households in 1990-2005. It is healthier to see a stripper naked vs. online porn. A lot of simps don't realize that.
Everyone in here hates when I say this, but I elevated my social and seduction skills practicing on strippers. It got me comfortable around attractive women. Lap dances never did anything for me, but building a connection thru conversation did. Seeing how long I could keep a stripper on my lap talking about anything under the sun was a thrill for me. My table was always a revolving door of girls like I was something special but I wasn't. Barely spent any money. Had a lot of interesting conversations.
 

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Everyone in here hates when I say this, but I elevated my social and seduction skills practicing on strippers. It got me comfortable around attractive women. Lap dances never did anything for me, but building a connection thru conversation did. Seeing how long I could keep a stripper on my lap talking about anything under the sun was a thrill for me. My table was always a revolving door of girls like I was something special but I wasn't. Barely spent any money. Had a lot of interesting conversations.
I had never read that story about you. I can imagine how that would be possible so I don't think that's a bad thing. You apparently weren't a big spender so that's not simping. Did you happen to go on slower nights? It seems possible that a strip club on a Tuesday or Wednesday night would allow for an extended conversation.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I had never read that story about you. I can imagine how that would be possible so I don't think that's a bad thing. You apparently weren't a big spender so that's not simping. Did you happen to go on slower nights? It seems possible that a strip club on a Tuesday or Wednesday night would allow for an extended conversation.
Yeah I barely spent anything. Thru a few bucks on the main stage and that was it. I'd go in the late afternoon around 3-6.

On Fridays At the byob clubs my buddies and I would bring lots of alcohol to share with the girls. Had some unique liquor bottles and names of booze. One liquor bottle was in the shape of a tommy gun that stood 2' tall which was always a big hit. Had some other liquors called Gay Rum, and CahkBurn. They were great Convo pieces. We had a huge bottle of grey goose that had cheap vodka in it. It was all about presentation. We were known as the fun party crowd to hang out with. We became the entertainment. It got to the point where it was expected and if we missed a week they were texting us. After a few weeks, 3 of us had stripper girl friends.

We also made it a point to become friends with the security, door girls, and dj.

Those door girls are easy to pickup, but the security will always cahk block you.
 

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I remember many years back, hearing an ad on the radio for a sports bar/restaurant. It was listing the good food it had, and added "with a hot, young wait staff". I always thought that was a curious thing to advertise. I mean, I guess it makes sense, but it seems strange to advertise that. What are they saying, come in and ogle at our staff, or come in and flirt with our staff?

I guess that's why I've always found the breastaurant idea to be kind of weird, knowing that waitresses are incentivized to be flirty with the customers to get better tips and sell more food and drinks. I suppose it's just like a strip club lite though.
 

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I remember many years back, hearing an ad on the radio for a sports bar/restaurant. It was listing the good food it had, and added "with a hot, young wait staff". I always thought that was a curious thing to advertise. I mean, I guess it makes sense, but it seems strange to advertise that. What are they saying, come in and ogle at our staff, or come in and flirt with our staff?

I guess that's why I've always found the breastaurant idea to be kind of weird, knowing that waitresses are incentivized to be flirty with the customers to get better tips and sell more food and drinks. I suppose it's just like a strip club lite though.
The biggest difference between a strip club and a breastaurant is that it would be possible to have a meaningful conversation with a male friend while at a breastaurant. At a strip club, that isn't happening.
 

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The strip clubs have definitely taken a hit that's for sure between cash app WhatsApp and can't modeling and of course only fans it was only a matter of time
 

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Twin Peaks has done well getting to roughly 100 locations. They have a solid grasp on the marketing mix. There's so much competition now in the breastaurant space that these brands need to find ways to differentiate. The differentiator for Twin Peaks was having outfits with midriffs showing and the hunting lodge interior theme.

Some breastaurants will use women in G string bikinis as the point of differentiation.
I would be happy if there just weren't any fat chick waitresses at such places. :rolleyes:
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Seeing how long I could keep a stripper on my lap talking about anything under the sun was a thrill for me. My table was always a revolving door of girls like I was something special but I wasn't. Barely spent any money. Had a lot of interesting conversations.
We are a kindred spirit. :cool: I like it when the aggressive ones start "reaching around". :eek: :cool:
 
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In Montréal, alot of the strip clubs are closing / have Closed.

Its too expensive for what you can get online
 

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In Montréal, alot of the strip clubs are closing / have Closed.

Its too expensive for what you can get online
I had visited Montreal a few decades ago. There seemed to be a lot of strip clubs there.
 

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So AI will put OF women and strippers out of business?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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