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Is OnlyFans Killing the Strip Club and Breastaurant?

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We all know that simps are going to simp.

Is the venue for simping now different than it used to be? Simps used to need to show up in person to simp.

For women, why bother working in a strip club or Hooters/Twin Peaks when you could work at home? The counter argument to that is that few OnlyFans women do make a sustainable living on OnlyFans. For every woman like the one we discussed in June (see below), there are at least 50 making little to nothing on OnlyFans....


Below is an article from 2018 casting doubt on the future of the breastaurant. That's before OnlyFans got big.


Both strip clubs and breastaurants survived the era of free porn on demand from tube sites.
 

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For every woman like the one we discussed in June (see below), there are at least 50 making little to nothing on OnlyFans....
If attention is the coin of female realm, then it makes sense why women do it while not making money.

Both strip clubs and breastaurants survived the era of free porn on demand from tube sites.
Makes sense. Onlyfans girls can't give a good grinding lapdance, and if one likes to eat out, why not go to a place where the waitresses look good and in sexy attire.
 

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I doubt breastaurants will go anywhere. Twin peaks is a sports bar and they serve pretty decent food. Also, the women that work at these places will give men in-person fake validation that onlyfans hoes can't give. Although I can see woke feminists going after these places at some point.

I also don't consider breastaurants and strip clubs to be simping. For me, simping is when a guy develops an unhealthy obsession with an employee and starts to blow tons of money on her in the deluded belief that she actually cares about him, which is the plot of the Raisins southpark episode.

Strip clubs, I don't to them so I really don't know. Same thing applies as far as simping and breastaurants, I'm surprised that they're still in business.
 

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I doubt breastaurants will go anywhere. Twin peaks is a sports bar and they serve pretty decent food. Also, the women that work at these places will give men in-person fake validation that onlyfans hoes can't give. Although I can see woke feminists going after these places at some point.
How would be a breastaurant employee be better positioned to give fake validation than an OnlyFans gal? I don't use OnlyFans and don't understand it at all. I understand the free tube porn sites. OnlyFans is basically that but less hardcore.

Twin Peaks does have better processed food than Hooters. Watching sports is a beta male activity and most men are betas.

It's easier to make money at Twin Peaks or Hooters than doing the self-marketing on OnlyFans.

Also, we learned from the pandemic that breastaurants are not well positioned for those. People don't go to Twin Peaks and Hooters for the food. If people went for the food, they could do ok in delivery, but why bother to get Hooters delivered? There are way better delivery options out there. The reason to go to a breastaurant is for the tits and the butts.

I also don't consider breastaurants and strip clubs to be simping. For me, simping is when a guy develops an unhealthy obsession with an employee and starts to blow tons of money on her in the deluded belief that she actually cares about him, which is the plot of the Raisins southpark episode.
In the "Raisins" South Park episode, the character of Butters simps over a breastaurant waitress. There are real life guys who simp over a stripper or breastaurant waitress.

Strip clubs, I don't to them so I really don't know. Same thing applies as far as simping and breastaurants, I'm surprised that they're still in business.
I haven't been to a strip club in nearly 15 years. I drove past one a few months ago on a Friday night and the parking lot was full. It wasn't even that late, maybe around 8 PM.
 

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Watching sports is a beta male activity
What about all the alphas watching? By this logic, watching movies and tv is a beta male activity. Listening to music is a beta male activity. A greater percentage of the population that is doing those are represented by betas...
 

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How would be a breastaurant employee be better positioned to give fake validation than an OnlyFans gal? I don't use OnlyFans and don't understand it at all. I understand the free tube porn sites. OnlyFans is basically that but less hardcore.
Breastaurant chicks are in a position to at least physically touch their customers and interact with them on a personal basis (eye contact) that onlyfans has no ability to provide.

I agree that the only reason to go is for the tits and butts, but at least it actually provides tangible goods for the money paid in the form of food, booze and large TV screens, as well as fake female attention. Onlyfans provides nothing except for fake validation.

Yes there are people who simp for breastaurant chicks, but they're just as pathetic as onlyfans simps.
 

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A stripper physically massaging a john's manhood beats anything that can be delivered online. I should know. :cool:
 

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tangible goods for the money paid in the form of food, booze and large TV screens, as well as fake female attention. Onlyfans provides nothing except for fake validation.
The tangible goods of food, booze, and large TV screens are overpriced in breastaurants, but still better than fake validation.

I can get food at the grocery store for less than a breastaurant.

Beer at the grocery store or most liquor stores is cheaper. A 24 pack of Budweiser/Bud Light is about $20 where I am. $20 worth of Budweiser/Bud Light at a breastaurant is no more than 4 beers.

Large TV screens are very accessible at home. I can get a good deal on a new TV set at Walmart/Target/Sam's Club/Costco. The trend in TV sets is that they are getting larger and costing less in a lot of cases. Even TV sets that have more "smart TV" functionality aren't that pricy. I could get a 7-12 year old used flat screen that would last about 5 more years for nothing online too. My current flat screen is 10+ years old and will likely last for a while.
 

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I would argue that a hot bartender chick (f/k/a hired gun) at a regular bar (or lounge/club) is far superior to a "breastaurant chick."

She might be wearing something more skimpy and be more open to chat if the place isn't busy.*

Breastaurant chicks likely have their bytch shields cranked up to a higher setting as well.

*I'm not talking about picking them up. This thread is more about lonely guys seeking attention.
 
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*I'm not talking about picking them up. This thread is more about lonely guys seeking attention.
This thread is not intended to be a thread about picking up breastaurant waitresses/bartenders, other hot bartender chicks, or strippers. The best way to pick up those women is somehow meeting them outside of work. It doesn't matter so much whether it is non-bar approaching, approaching them in a bar when they are off duty, or meeting them through social circle.

I was able to approach a stripper while I was in college and playing a co-ed pickup sport. Later in life, I was able to approach a waitress at Dallas' most popular beer garden style bar while she was walking her dog outside of an apartment community. She had just gotten off work and had not changed out of her work clothes, which had the logo of the establishment on it. When I was doing that approach, I realized that I had least had a chance here. Any conversation I would have had with her at her beer garden style bar would have lumped me in her mind as some customer douchebag. In this approach, she was talking to me voluntarily and that was exciting. This was an approach that didn't result in a date or number but a positive experience.

Most men who work Mon-Fri 8:30 AM - 5:30 PM style jobs (either white collar or blue collar) don't have the lifestyle needed to regularly interact with hot bartenders or strippers and actually have an extended relationship of 3+ months with her.

I would argue that a hot bartender chick (f/k/a hired gun) at a regular bar (or lounge/club) is far superior to a "breastaurant chick."

She might be wearing something more skimpy and be more open to chat if the place isn't busy.*

Breastaurant chicks likely have their bytch shields cranked up to a higher setting as well.
Even when a breastaurant or a bar isn't busy, it can be difficult for a man to get outside the mental barrier of "douchebag customer" in her mind. That's going to make it more difficult to set a date with her and then collect her number.

It's difficult to talk about "hot bartender chick" because regular bars, lounges, and clubs are so varied. I'd say the woman I approached in the story above while she was walking her dog would have been in the "hot bartender/hot waitress chick" category.

I would guess that more men hit on a breastaurant chicks than a hot chick at a regular bar, though the difference is likely within 10% in most cases.

 

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I would guess that more men hit on a breastaurant chicks than a hot chick at a regular bar, though the difference is likely within 10% in most cases.
Yeah, that's pretty much where I was going with that. The breasturant chick has almost all male customers, and she pretty much expects to be hit on almost non-stop. The regular bartender chick can let her guard down a little bit more. But the difference isn't too much.
 

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I doubt breastaurants will go anywhere. Twin peaks is a sports bar and they serve pretty decent food. Also, the women that work at these places will give men in-person fake validation that onlyfans hoes can't give. Although I can see woke feminists going after these places at some point.

I also don't consider breastaurants and strip clubs to be simping. For me, simping is when a guy develops an unhealthy obsession with an employee and starts to blow tons of money on her in the deluded belief that she actually cares about him, which is the plot of the Raisins southpark episode.

Strip clubs, I don't to them so I really don't know. Same thing applies as far as simping and breastaurants, I'm surprised that they're still in business.
And of course you have the players who bang chicks from those type of places that frequent there as well.
 

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Yeah, that's pretty much where I was going with that. The breasturant chick has almost all male customers, and she pretty much expects to be hit on almost non-stop. The regular bartender chick can let her guard down a little bit more. But the difference isn't too much.
You're right that the regular bartender chick has female customers that likely aren't hitting on her, though there might be some lesbian females who hit on her + females as part of couples looking for her to be a 3rd in a MFF threesome.

We all know that simps are going to simp.
The simp economy is real. I have some examples from Hooters waitresses about how much money they make.

The first example is Leah Fennelly, from the video above. She's 23 years old and attractive. She has been working at Hooters part time since she was 18. She got a bachelor's degree from a large public university in FL while working at Hooters and is now a law student at a bottom tier law school in FL.

In a recent video, Fennelly showed she made $382 in tips during a 12 - 8 PM Thursday shift at Hooters. 12-8 PM on a Thursday isn't even a prime shift. Additionally, FL minimum wage for tipped employees is $6.98. On that Thursday, she made $437.84, including one simp who gave her $100 via cash app. If she were to make $437.84 every day as a full time employee, 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year, that equates to an annual salary of $113,838.40. There are plenty of 35-45 year old white collar and blue collar working men who don't earn that salary. Many of those men aren't losers either, as they have solid trade certifications, bachelor's degrees, or even advanced degrees.


A second Hooters waitress made $521 during a shift. She has alternate simping income streams too.


The third Hooters waitress is Kristen Songer, who is now in medical school at University of South Carolina and is 23 years old.

Between tips and hourly salary, she made over $1,333.62 by my calculation. That's not counting the $100 in a promotional appearance She called this week a representative If she made that salary in a 52 week year, that's an annual salary of $69,348.24. How many 23 year olds with a bachelor's degree make $69,000 per year? Not many.

Also worth noting from this article is that one simp gave her $60 for talking to him.

 

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You're right that the regular bartender chick has female customers that likely aren't hitting on her, though there might be some lesbian females who hit on her + females as part of couples looking for her to be a 3rd in a MFF threesome.





The simp economy is real. I have some examples from Hooters waitresses about how much money they make.

The first example is Leah Fennelly, from the video above. She's 23 years old and attractive. She has been working at Hooters part time since she was 18. She got a bachelor's degree from a large public university in FL while working at Hooters and is now a law student at a bottom tier law school in FL.

In a recent video, Fennelly showed she made $382 in tips during a 12 - 8 PM Thursday shift at Hooters. 12-8 PM on a Thursday isn't even a prime shift. Additionally, FL minimum wage for tipped employees is $6.98. On that Thursday, she made $437.84, including one simp who gave her $100 via cash app. If she were to make $437.84 every day as a full time employee, 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year, that equates to an annual salary of $113,838.40. There are plenty of 35-45 year old white collar and blue collar working men who don't earn that salary. Many of those men aren't losers either, as they have solid trade certifications, bachelor's degrees, or even advanced degrees.


A second Hooters waitress made $521 during a shift. She has alternate simping income streams too.


The third Hooters waitress is Kristen Songer, who is now in medical school at University of South Carolina and is 23 years old.

Between tips and hourly salary, she made over $1,333.62 by my calculation. That's not counting the $100 in a promotional appearance She called this week a representative If she made that salary in a 52 week year, that's an annual salary of $69,348.24. How many 23 year olds with a bachelor's degree make $69,000 per year? Not many.

Also worth noting from this article is that one simp gave her $60 for talking to him.

Software engineers out of college make more than that these days usually
 

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Software engineers out of college make more than that these days usually
So what? Most men aren't software engineers. More men have bachelor's degrees in liberal arts/social sciences or business. Business majors often suck wind right out of school with a bachelor's. Non-Top 25 MBA level graduates often struggle to get to good salaries in their first post MBA job.

A female can make more at ages 22-27 in a breastaurant than with a BA in a liberal arts/social sciences discipline and some bullshiit white collar job.
 

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So what? Most men aren't software engineers. More men have bachelor's degrees in liberal arts/social sciences or business. Business majors often suck wind right out of school with a bachelor's. Non-Top 25 MBA level graduates often struggle to get to good salaries in their first post MBA job.

A female can make more at ages 22-27 in a breastaurant than with a BA in a liberal arts/social sciences discipline and some bullshiit white collar job.
Haha, it only seems that way with all the new people every year. It's good tho. Most of them aren't too good at it and makes me more valuable
 

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You're right that the regular bartender chick has female customers that likely aren't hitting on her, though there might be some lesbian females who hit on her + females as part of couples looking for her to be a 3rd in a MFF threesome.





The simp economy is real. I have some examples from Hooters waitresses about how much money they make.

The first example is Leah Fennelly, from the video above. She's 23 years old and attractive. She has been working at Hooters part time since she was 18. She got a bachelor's degree from a large public university in FL while working at Hooters and is now a law student at a bottom tier law school in FL.

In a recent video, Fennelly showed she made $382 in tips during a 12 - 8 PM Thursday shift at Hooters. 12-8 PM on a Thursday isn't even a prime shift. Additionally, FL minimum wage for tipped employees is $6.98. On that Thursday, she made $437.84, including one simp who gave her $100 via cash app. If she were to make $437.84 every day as a full time employee, 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year, that equates to an annual salary of $113,838.40. There are plenty of 35-45 year old white collar and blue collar working men who don't earn that salary. Many of those men aren't losers either, as they have solid trade certifications, bachelor's degrees, or even advanced degrees.


A second Hooters waitress made $521 during a shift. She has alternate simping income streams too.


The third Hooters waitress is Kristen Songer, who is now in medical school at University of South Carolina and is 23 years old.

Between tips and hourly salary, she made over $1,333.62 by my calculation. That's not counting the $100 in a promotional appearance She called this week a representative If she made that salary in a 52 week year, that's an annual salary of $69,348.24. How many 23 year olds with a bachelor's degree make $69,000 per year? Not many.

Also worth noting from this article is that one simp gave her $60 for talking to him.

The woman in the vid gave out a gem piece if one caught it. "If the guy is attractive, and seems smart, AND DEPENDING ON MY MOOD, I might give him my number. So for anyone reading, this is a good example of why not to be too ego involved in rejection. It can just be because of their mood, even if they're attracted to you.
 

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The woman in the vid gave out a gem piece if one caught it. "If the guy is attractive, and seems smart, AND DEPENDING ON MY MOOD, I might give him my number. So for anyone reading, this is a good example of why not to be too ego involved in rejection. It can just be because of their mood, even if they're attracted to you.
You make an excellent point about mood. Women operate on emotion.

In 5+ years, she only gave her number out to 10-15 men while at work. In those 5+ years, at least 400 men asked for it while she worked. Also, only 2 dates resulted, indicating a high flake rate post number acquisition. Neither date resulted in either a 2nd date or sex.

In approaching strangers, most of the time the conversation fizzles out because the woman already has a boyfriend, husband, situationship, or whatever. She's not looking for new penis but she's letting the conversation fizzle out rather than directly saying that she isn't looking for new penis. While the IHAB excuse is still, I believe women are more sophisticated now in excuse making. More and more men are learning to push back with the IHAB and use the boyfriend destroyer lines.

The main difference between being an OnlyFans woman and being a strip club/breastaurant woman is marketing, more specifically the promotionary part of the marketing mix. Marketing is difficult. When you choose to be a stripper or a breastaurant worker, you're not fully responsible for marketing to bring in your revenue. Hooters, Twin Peaks, and other breastaurants have hired marketers and operate a marketing budget. Individual strip clubs also do some marketing effort, though they may not have an on staff marketer. Some strip club might hire a marketing/advertising agency to manage promotionary efforts, but the individual strippers don't have to think about that much. When you are an OnlyFans woman, you are solely responsible for the product (hardcore or softcore images and videos) and promoting the product to get simps to subscribe and follow you. Not too many women either want to take on that responsbility or are talented enough to market themselves well enough to simps to make a full living. Most women make little to nothing on OnlyFans, but we only hear about the women who make a ton of money on OnlyFans. The typical Hooters waitress is more likely to make more money as a Hooters waitress than as an OnlyFans girl simply because Hooters has more sophisticated marketing to bring simps and other males in the door.
 
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