Dhoulmagus
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It seems like it lol
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
The reasons for becoming MGTOW are not always the result of not getting any women.When I think of MGTOW, I think about a man who has tried PUA advice, but it hasn't worked for him. Maybe he doesn't have the tools or motivation or whatever, so he gives up on trying to attract women. Then he tries to make the best life he can for himself with that in mind.
They say feminism is for unattractive women, so that does sound pretty similar - maybe the OP is correct.
I tend to see those guys as regular "DJs", if they are good with women.Starwolf said:There are some men who just don't see the need to comply with the traditional way of living. Getting married, buying a house, raising kids etc.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
I do not mean to become reckless. I simply mean that you don't think about certain scenarios because you aren't afraid, you don't care what others think of you, and the social skills you have are of second nature, thus you do not need to think about it. So why waste time and think about it? The real man is extremely rational.sylvester the cat said:A man who acts without thinking Is a foolish man.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Along with any girl over 27 won't give the male the time of day unless he has money.zekko said:I've always thought that with MGTOW, they've even rejected the casual dating and plate spinning, along with the marriages and LTRs. Today's wh0res aren't worth the effort, that sort of thing. That's what sets them apart. Maybe that's just me though.
Yet I see fat ugly bald men with womenTrump said:Along with any girl over 27 won't give the male the time of day unless he has money.
The effort, money, and time required by males to get to their desired outcome, when in high school and college all the genetically blessed and good game guys got the results, is almost not worth it. Add that to the fact the girls can be very difficult team players, there are not too many options left.
I agree with that too. There are many reasons for that, even beyond looks. Some men have a social awkwardness about them that stems from their childhood. It may be caused by some negative early experiences with women, their peers, as well as at home. It becomes very difficult to fix later in life, and as women age, they demand MORE confidence and savior-faire from men. So some of these guys fall so far behind with respect to women's expectations that they give up and leave the dating scene.zekko said:Regarding seeing fat ugly bald men with women:
I think that what attracts a particular woman to a particular man can be a very complicated soup indeed, and it may not be able to be easily explained, even with what we know.
Agreed. Rest assured that she doesn't find him ugly. We may never fully understand why women are attracted to certain guys.
I DON'T think it is that hard of a thing to get a girl to date you. However, I DO recognize that for some guys, it becomes a nearly impossible task. For a variety of reasons. For these guys, maybe the effort it takes to succeed really is more than it is worth. Or the journey is so hard and long for them, they lose heart and give up long before they reach some success.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.