Is mgtow the male version of feminism

[Dhoulmagus]

It seems like it lol

 

[EvilSpirit22]

Nope! MGTOW is a type of man who lives on his own terms and his prime focus is his development and increasing his resources. Its not like he is anti-women, he gets a lot of women because of his status and financial worth which he is aware of.

He won't commit to women who are after him because of his money.


My cousin is a fine example of MGTOW, He currently owns 3 factories and is 35 years old. He gets laid almost every day but he won't commit to any of them. Last month he got engaged to a girl who actually earns a ****load of money herself and belongs to a rich family.


At some point of time a man like that will commit to someone who isn't after his money or status.

A fat, ugly guy who never gets laid but wants every possible benefit for women just to get laid is the type of guy I would categorize as a Feminist.

But yeah different people will definitely have different opinions while defining the term Feminist or MGTOW.

These are my personal views.

 

[Maximummax]

I agree with evil spirit

 

[zekko]

When I think of MGTOW, I think about a man who has tried PUA advice, but it hasn't worked for him. Maybe he doesn't have the tools or motivation or whatever, so he gives up on trying to attract women. Then he tries to make the best life he can for himself with that in mind.

They say feminism is for unattractive women, so that does sound pretty similar - maybe the OP is correct.

 

[Between_The_Lines]

To my understanding, there's men going their own way despite their ability to play the game with ease due to a high SMV for one reason or another (i.e. women are a waste of time, protecting resources), and those who subscribe to MGTOW as a cop out, out of impotence (low SMV)...no pun.

A few years back, the very first MGTOW video I ever came across was from this user. My guess is he falls in line with the latter group I described (he screams beta bucks if you ask me), but looks can be deceiving...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg04ryQ-71Q

 

[Starwolf]

When I think of MGTOW, I think about a man who has tried PUA advice, but it hasn't worked for him. Maybe he doesn't have the tools or motivation or whatever, so he gives up on trying to attract women. Then he tries to make the best life he can for himself with that in mind.

They say feminism is for unattractive women, so that does sound pretty similar - maybe the OP is correct.

The reasons for becoming MGTOW are not always the result of not getting any women.

There are some men who just don't see the need to comply with the traditional way of living. Getting married, buying a house, raising kids etc.

There are also men who did get married and gone through hell with a woman and lost everything. These are the majority i think.

and yes.. then you have those who are just butt hurt cuz they couldn't get laid. But these men are not MGTOW. As barbarrossa would say " they are just a BJ away from reverting back to blue pill"

 

[backseatjuan]

This site is male version of femenism.

 

[Trunks]

Seems like it: angry dudes unwilling to adapt to get poon.

 

[zekko]

There are some men who just don't see the need to comply with the traditional way of living. Getting married, buying a house, raising kids etc.

I tend to see those guys as regular "DJs", if they are good with women.

For some reason, I associate MGTOW as being not good with women. I mean not feeling obligated to get married, that's almost universal throughout the manosphere. Spinning plates, casual dating, not committing, that's just fairly normal PUA stuff.

I've always thought that with MGTOW, they've even rejected the casual dating and plate spinning, along with the marriages and LTRs. Today's wh0res aren't worth the effort, that sort of thing. That's what sets them apart. Maybe that's just me though.

 

[Mike32ct]

I don't think most feminists "give up on men" or avoid them the way MGTOWs avoid women.

They'll still date and F men, but be very picky and break their balls a lot.

Most women don't have the courage to go their own way. It's very difficult for a herd creature to go their own way.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

True MGTOWs do not identify themselves as such. Males who claim to become MGTOW post PUA are true failures in life due to their own misinterpretation of social dynamics. Their convoluted way of thinking causes them to remain stubborn with a precious and already damaged super ego which prevents them from changing. And in order to retain the last shattered bits of their false pride, they claim to have gone MGTOW.

True men do not have the need or desire to think about what 'category' they fall under simply because they do not waste time with thinking; they only act.

 

[sylvester the cat]

A man who acts without thinking Is a foolish man.

 

[Mike32ct]

I agree that, strictly speaking, a TRUE MGTOW would never even discuss it. A guy that posts online talking about his MGTOW lifestyle is AW-ing in a sense lol. It's like "Look at me; I'm a MGTOW."

Putting that aside, there does seem to be two categories of "MGTOW" though...

1. The rich and/or good looking guy that doesn't want to get tied down into marriage or a serious relationship.

2. The ugly and/or too old guy (who might or might not be a failed PUA guy) who decides it's best to give up on women rather than beat his head against the wall and face continued rejections. So he tries to make the best of his life situation by withdrawing.

 

[Moy_1974]

There's a difference between MGTOW and TFL, a lot of self-proclaimed MGTOW are actually just TFL.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

A man who acts without thinking Is a foolish man.

I do not mean to become reckless. I simply mean that you don't think about certain scenarios because you aren't afraid, you don't care what others think of you, and the social skills you have are of second nature, thus you do not need to think about it. So why waste time and think about it? The real man is extremely rational.

 

[Trump]

I've always thought that with MGTOW, they've even rejected the casual dating and plate spinning, along with the marriages and LTRs. Today's wh0res aren't worth the effort, that sort of thing. That's what sets them apart. Maybe that's just me though.

Along with any girl over 27 won't give the male the time of day unless he has money.

The effort, money, and time required by males to get to their desired outcome, when in high school and college all the genetically blessed and good game guys got the results, is almost not worth it. Add that to the fact the girls can be very difficult team players, there are not too many options left.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

Along with any girl over 27 won't give the male the time of day unless he has money.

The effort, money, and time required by males to get to their desired outcome, when in high school and college all the genetically blessed and good game guys got the results, is almost not worth it. Add that to the fact the girls can be very difficult team players, there are not too many options left.

Yet I see fat ugly bald men with women

 

[zekko]

Regarding seeing fat ugly bald men with women:
I think that what attracts a particular woman to a particular man can be a very complicated soup indeed, and it may not be able to be easily explained, even with what we know.

I DON'T think it is that hard of a thing to get a girl to date you. However, I DO recognize that for some guys, it becomes a nearly impossible task. For a variety of reasons. For these guys, maybe the effort it takes to succeed really is more than it is worth. Or the journey is so hard and long for them, they lose heart and give up long before they reach some success.

 

[Mike32ct]

Regarding seeing fat ugly bald men with women:
I think that what attracts a particular woman to a particular man can be a very complicated soup indeed, and it may not be able to be easily explained, even with what we know.

Agreed. Rest assured that she doesn't find him ugly. We may never fully understand why women are attracted to certain guys.

I DON'T think it is that hard of a thing to get a girl to date you. However, I DO recognize that for some guys, it becomes a nearly impossible task. For a variety of reasons. For these guys, maybe the effort it takes to succeed really is more than it is worth. Or the journey is so hard and long for them, they lose heart and give up long before they reach some success.

I agree with that too. There are many reasons for that, even beyond looks. Some men have a social awkwardness about them that stems from their childhood. It may be caused by some negative early experiences with women, their peers, as well as at home. It becomes very difficult to fix later in life, and as women age, they demand MORE confidence and savior-faire from men. So some of these guys fall so far behind with respect to women's expectations that they give up and leave the dating scene.

 

[CrimsonPanther]

i am a MGTOW.
i am a man, i go my own way. this includes having sex with different women. also includes not letting them screw me over (marriage alimony etc)

MGTOW does not necessarily mean a man who has nothing to do with women. it just means that you don't care about what others want from you. you have your own life, your own ideas, ideologies, your WAY, and you stick to it.