Don The Magic Juan
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Is it wrong to kiss a girl on a first date? Would your recommend it?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Is It Wrong to Kiss On a First Date?
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
no... it's wrong NOT to kiss on the first date.
I'd be against not having sex on the first date if some of these women actually thought they were doing the morally right thing by not following their urges.. but if a woman doesn't want to fvck you after sending an hour with you, it won't go uphilll
I'd be against not having sex on the first date if some of these women actually thought they were doing the morally right thing by not following their urges.. but if a woman doesn't want to fvck you after sending an hour with you, it won't go uphilll
Its wrong not to try.
Worse case you will get the cheek and you can try it on the second date. If you don't get the second date then it was because she wasn't interested in you to begin with. If you do get the second date and she gives you the cheek then you can forget about her.
I think you are talking and listening to too many women who tell you that " I don't kiss on the first date" - in actuality what it should really say " I don't kiss on the first date if I don't feel really attracted to the guy".
Sometimes it takes 1- 2 dates or intereactions to elevate a woman's interest in you high enough so she will want to kiss you.
Worse case you will get the cheek and you can try it on the second date. If you don't get the second date then it was because she wasn't interested in you to begin with. If you do get the second date and she gives you the cheek then you can forget about her.
I think you are talking and listening to too many women who tell you that " I don't kiss on the first date" - in actuality what it should really say " I don't kiss on the first date if I don't feel really attracted to the guy".
Sometimes it takes 1- 2 dates or intereactions to elevate a woman's interest in you high enough so she will want to kiss you.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
i gotta tell you.. if I can't get a kiss on the first date.. I'm out.
How many times have you been on a date, where after spending an hour with you, she doesn't want to kiss you... and it turned out to be a positive relationship?
learning when to cut your losses is key
How many times have you been on a date, where after spending an hour with you, she doesn't want to kiss you... and it turned out to be a positive relationship?
learning when to cut your losses is key
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
i role with a very simple philsophy when it comes to women.
ARE YOU IN OR ARE YOU OUT
I don't play games (well maybe), I don't beat around the bush... I come out of a first date, if it's even a date, knowing what I have. If a woman hasn't opened up after the first date to where the thought of sex with me isn't like having sex with her little brother, there is no need to waste my time on a second date. i will just call someone else, or even better... sit at home and read a book.
ARE YOU IN OR ARE YOU OUT
I don't play games (well maybe), I don't beat around the bush... I come out of a first date, if it's even a date, knowing what I have. If a woman hasn't opened up after the first date to where the thought of sex with me isn't like having sex with her little brother, there is no need to waste my time on a second date. i will just call someone else, or even better... sit at home and read a book.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Raul_el_Bonito
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u should kiss her if she'll let ya
I've kissed two girls in my entire life, both girlfriends, so I don't see the point of kissing people you aren't really really interested in. And some guys complain that she won't kiss you after spending an hour with you...I'd complain if she kissed me after ONLY spending an hour with me. Like jeez, how many other guys has she been with? I'd rather be with a quality woman and wait a few dates for that quality kiss than taste some other guy's jizz while frenching an easier girl...
Gangster Of Love
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No man, you should not kiss her on the first date, or the second or third. In fact, I believe you should wait as long as possible until you kiss her. I recommend you first take her to meet your family, and then see if they approve of her. Next go meet her family, and see if you can see yourself being part of that family, then get together with your friends and see what they think about this serious life event.
If you are still not sure, you should register for an account on the Don Juan Forum and see what the guys online have to say about it. If that still doesn't work for you, and you need more reassurance, then buy her flowers and invite her to an expensive dinner under the stars or candle-lit. I know you're probably young, but if you can spare some bucks, I would make sure to rent a tuxedo, rent a limo, and get your hair done by a stylist right before the big date.
If all this still doesn't work, then PM me and I can guide you further...
If you are still not sure, you should register for an account on the Don Juan Forum and see what the guys online have to say about it. If that still doesn't work for you, and you need more reassurance, then buy her flowers and invite her to an expensive dinner under the stars or candle-lit. I know you're probably young, but if you can spare some bucks, I would make sure to rent a tuxedo, rent a limo, and get your hair done by a stylist right before the big date.
If all this still doesn't work, then PM me and I can guide you further...
Don The Magic Juan
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I was just wondering because some of my friends were talking about how they been together for 2 months and still no kissing going on. I felt my current girlfriend's boobs up on the second day I met her (first date) and I made out with another girl the first day we hung out.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
you have to be making this crap up.
what's wrong with men these day. nuttless creatures. women with external body parts.
how the FVCK do you date someone for 2 months and not get a kiss. that should be illegal. They should literalry have a warrant out for her arrest, put her in the paddy wagon, and indict her on blue balls, 2nd degree
what's wrong with men these day. nuttless creatures. women with external body parts.
how the FVCK do you date someone for 2 months and not get a kiss. that should be illegal. They should literalry have a warrant out for her arrest, put her in the paddy wagon, and indict her on blue balls, 2nd degree
Raul_el_Bonito
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guess hes shy
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umm... I like to fvck on the first date, but that's just meDon The Magic Juan said:Is it wrong to kiss a girl on a first date? Would your recommend it?