Don The Magic Juan
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Is it wrong to kiss a girl on a first date? Would your recommend it?
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Is It Wrong to Kiss On a First Date?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
no... it's wrong NOT to kiss on the first date.
I'd be against not having sex on the first date if some of these women actually thought they were doing the morally right thing by not following their urges.. but if a woman doesn't want to fvck you after sending an hour with you, it won't go uphilll
I'd be against not having sex on the first date if some of these women actually thought they were doing the morally right thing by not following their urges.. but if a woman doesn't want to fvck you after sending an hour with you, it won't go uphilll
Its wrong not to try.
Worse case you will get the cheek and you can try it on the second date. If you don't get the second date then it was because she wasn't interested in you to begin with. If you do get the second date and she gives you the cheek then you can forget about her.
I think you are talking and listening to too many women who tell you that " I don't kiss on the first date" - in actuality what it should really say " I don't kiss on the first date if I don't feel really attracted to the guy".
Sometimes it takes 1- 2 dates or intereactions to elevate a woman's interest in you high enough so she will want to kiss you.
Worse case you will get the cheek and you can try it on the second date. If you don't get the second date then it was because she wasn't interested in you to begin with. If you do get the second date and she gives you the cheek then you can forget about her.
I think you are talking and listening to too many women who tell you that " I don't kiss on the first date" - in actuality what it should really say " I don't kiss on the first date if I don't feel really attracted to the guy".
Sometimes it takes 1- 2 dates or intereactions to elevate a woman's interest in you high enough so she will want to kiss you.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
i gotta tell you.. if I can't get a kiss on the first date.. I'm out.
How many times have you been on a date, where after spending an hour with you, she doesn't want to kiss you... and it turned out to be a positive relationship?
learning when to cut your losses is key
How many times have you been on a date, where after spending an hour with you, she doesn't want to kiss you... and it turned out to be a positive relationship?
learning when to cut your losses is key
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
i role with a very simple philsophy when it comes to women.
ARE YOU IN OR ARE YOU OUT
I don't play games (well maybe), I don't beat around the bush... I come out of a first date, if it's even a date, knowing what I have. If a woman hasn't opened up after the first date to where the thought of sex with me isn't like having sex with her little brother, there is no need to waste my time on a second date. i will just call someone else, or even better... sit at home and read a book.
ARE YOU IN OR ARE YOU OUT
I don't play games (well maybe), I don't beat around the bush... I come out of a first date, if it's even a date, knowing what I have. If a woman hasn't opened up after the first date to where the thought of sex with me isn't like having sex with her little brother, there is no need to waste my time on a second date. i will just call someone else, or even better... sit at home and read a book.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Raul_el_Bonito
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u should kiss her if she'll let ya
I've kissed two girls in my entire life, both girlfriends, so I don't see the point of kissing people you aren't really really interested in. And some guys complain that she won't kiss you after spending an hour with you...I'd complain if she kissed me after ONLY spending an hour with me. Like jeez, how many other guys has she been with? I'd rather be with a quality woman and wait a few dates for that quality kiss than taste some other guy's jizz while frenching an easier girl...
Gangster Of Love
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No man, you should not kiss her on the first date, or the second or third. In fact, I believe you should wait as long as possible until you kiss her. I recommend you first take her to meet your family, and then see if they approve of her. Next go meet her family, and see if you can see yourself being part of that family, then get together with your friends and see what they think about this serious life event.
If you are still not sure, you should register for an account on the Don Juan Forum and see what the guys online have to say about it. If that still doesn't work for you, and you need more reassurance, then buy her flowers and invite her to an expensive dinner under the stars or candle-lit. I know you're probably young, but if you can spare some bucks, I would make sure to rent a tuxedo, rent a limo, and get your hair done by a stylist right before the big date.
If all this still doesn't work, then PM me and I can guide you further...
If you are still not sure, you should register for an account on the Don Juan Forum and see what the guys online have to say about it. If that still doesn't work for you, and you need more reassurance, then buy her flowers and invite her to an expensive dinner under the stars or candle-lit. I know you're probably young, but if you can spare some bucks, I would make sure to rent a tuxedo, rent a limo, and get your hair done by a stylist right before the big date.
If all this still doesn't work, then PM me and I can guide you further...
Don The Magic Juan
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I was just wondering because some of my friends were talking about how they been together for 2 months and still no kissing going on. I felt my current girlfriend's boobs up on the second day I met her (first date) and I made out with another girl the first day we hung out.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
you have to be making this crap up.
what's wrong with men these day. nuttless creatures. women with external body parts.
how the FVCK do you date someone for 2 months and not get a kiss. that should be illegal. They should literalry have a warrant out for her arrest, put her in the paddy wagon, and indict her on blue balls, 2nd degree
what's wrong with men these day. nuttless creatures. women with external body parts.
how the FVCK do you date someone for 2 months and not get a kiss. that should be illegal. They should literalry have a warrant out for her arrest, put her in the paddy wagon, and indict her on blue balls, 2nd degree
Raul_el_Bonito
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guess hes shy
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umm... I like to fvck on the first date, but that's just meDon The Magic Juan said:Is it wrong to kiss a girl on a first date? Would your recommend it?