Don The Magic Juan
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Is it wrong to kiss a girl on a first date? Would your recommend it?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Is It Wrong to Kiss On a First Date?
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
no... it's wrong NOT to kiss on the first date.
I'd be against not having sex on the first date if some of these women actually thought they were doing the morally right thing by not following their urges.. but if a woman doesn't want to fvck you after sending an hour with you, it won't go uphilll
I'd be against not having sex on the first date if some of these women actually thought they were doing the morally right thing by not following their urges.. but if a woman doesn't want to fvck you after sending an hour with you, it won't go uphilll
Its wrong not to try.
Worse case you will get the cheek and you can try it on the second date. If you don't get the second date then it was because she wasn't interested in you to begin with. If you do get the second date and she gives you the cheek then you can forget about her.
I think you are talking and listening to too many women who tell you that " I don't kiss on the first date" - in actuality what it should really say " I don't kiss on the first date if I don't feel really attracted to the guy".
Sometimes it takes 1- 2 dates or intereactions to elevate a woman's interest in you high enough so she will want to kiss you.
Worse case you will get the cheek and you can try it on the second date. If you don't get the second date then it was because she wasn't interested in you to begin with. If you do get the second date and she gives you the cheek then you can forget about her.
I think you are talking and listening to too many women who tell you that " I don't kiss on the first date" - in actuality what it should really say " I don't kiss on the first date if I don't feel really attracted to the guy".
Sometimes it takes 1- 2 dates or intereactions to elevate a woman's interest in you high enough so she will want to kiss you.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
i gotta tell you.. if I can't get a kiss on the first date.. I'm out.
How many times have you been on a date, where after spending an hour with you, she doesn't want to kiss you... and it turned out to be a positive relationship?
learning when to cut your losses is key
How many times have you been on a date, where after spending an hour with you, she doesn't want to kiss you... and it turned out to be a positive relationship?
learning when to cut your losses is key
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
i role with a very simple philsophy when it comes to women.
ARE YOU IN OR ARE YOU OUT
I don't play games (well maybe), I don't beat around the bush... I come out of a first date, if it's even a date, knowing what I have. If a woman hasn't opened up after the first date to where the thought of sex with me isn't like having sex with her little brother, there is no need to waste my time on a second date. i will just call someone else, or even better... sit at home and read a book.
ARE YOU IN OR ARE YOU OUT
I don't play games (well maybe), I don't beat around the bush... I come out of a first date, if it's even a date, knowing what I have. If a woman hasn't opened up after the first date to where the thought of sex with me isn't like having sex with her little brother, there is no need to waste my time on a second date. i will just call someone else, or even better... sit at home and read a book.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Raul_el_Bonito
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u should kiss her if she'll let ya
I've kissed two girls in my entire life, both girlfriends, so I don't see the point of kissing people you aren't really really interested in. And some guys complain that she won't kiss you after spending an hour with you...I'd complain if she kissed me after ONLY spending an hour with me. Like jeez, how many other guys has she been with? I'd rather be with a quality woman and wait a few dates for that quality kiss than taste some other guy's jizz while frenching an easier girl...
Gangster Of Love
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No man, you should not kiss her on the first date, or the second or third. In fact, I believe you should wait as long as possible until you kiss her. I recommend you first take her to meet your family, and then see if they approve of her. Next go meet her family, and see if you can see yourself being part of that family, then get together with your friends and see what they think about this serious life event.
If you are still not sure, you should register for an account on the Don Juan Forum and see what the guys online have to say about it. If that still doesn't work for you, and you need more reassurance, then buy her flowers and invite her to an expensive dinner under the stars or candle-lit. I know you're probably young, but if you can spare some bucks, I would make sure to rent a tuxedo, rent a limo, and get your hair done by a stylist right before the big date.
If all this still doesn't work, then PM me and I can guide you further...
If you are still not sure, you should register for an account on the Don Juan Forum and see what the guys online have to say about it. If that still doesn't work for you, and you need more reassurance, then buy her flowers and invite her to an expensive dinner under the stars or candle-lit. I know you're probably young, but if you can spare some bucks, I would make sure to rent a tuxedo, rent a limo, and get your hair done by a stylist right before the big date.
If all this still doesn't work, then PM me and I can guide you further...
Don The Magic Juan
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I was just wondering because some of my friends were talking about how they been together for 2 months and still no kissing going on. I felt my current girlfriend's boobs up on the second day I met her (first date) and I made out with another girl the first day we hung out.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
you have to be making this crap up.
what's wrong with men these day. nuttless creatures. women with external body parts.
how the FVCK do you date someone for 2 months and not get a kiss. that should be illegal. They should literalry have a warrant out for her arrest, put her in the paddy wagon, and indict her on blue balls, 2nd degree
what's wrong with men these day. nuttless creatures. women with external body parts.
how the FVCK do you date someone for 2 months and not get a kiss. that should be illegal. They should literalry have a warrant out for her arrest, put her in the paddy wagon, and indict her on blue balls, 2nd degree
Raul_el_Bonito
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guess hes shy
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umm... I like to fvck on the first date, but that's just meDon The Magic Juan said:Is it wrong to kiss a girl on a first date? Would your recommend it?