I started talking about sex with my friend who is a girl. After a while, she invited my friend and I to go to the club next weekend. Shes like a 6, could I still use her as a wing women? Though shes smart and rich ( her dad recently bought a maserati ), shes not stuck up or anything though. Shes even down to pick me up and drop me off and be the designated driver. Shes got an SUV and said if one of us picks up a woman we could even use her car to get laid haha. Shes trying to get laid too. Ive actually never been to a club before ( Im 20 ) so i really dont know what to expect.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Is it worth taking a 6 to the club or will she lower my value?
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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
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Bring her with stop asking stupid questions
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Dude, no matter how the girl looks, never think like this, never. Looks is unimportant unless she is much less attractive to males than you to females. Look at a persons brain, you will attract much better people this way.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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Go to the club with her. You are worrying about nothing.
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I say go too.
She sounds like a good person.
She sounds like a good person.
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If all you ever care about is wrapping paper, you will spend your life unwrapping t*rds.
Give zero f*cks what other people think about you. And that is what you are worrying about - what other people think.
Give zero f*cks what other people think about you. And that is what you are worrying about - what other people think.
Hang with positive people , if she is smart and rich then her true value is around 7-8 wife material.
The best wives are from 6-8. Who knows , maybe you will be getting a luxury car for your birthday on day.
I don't flirt with the 9-10 zone , simple pump and dump ...most girls in that zone are either crazy or self entitled because of these idiots throwing themselves at their beauty.
The best wives are from 6-8. Who knows , maybe you will be getting a luxury car for your birthday on day.
I don't flirt with the 9-10 zone , simple pump and dump ...most girls in that zone are either crazy or self entitled because of these idiots throwing themselves at their beauty.
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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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^^^Mauser for the win. +1Mauser96 said:
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I might be in the minority on this but I dated a 6 for about 5 months and ALWAYS felt weird with her in public. I was often told I was out of her league. Maybe my trepidation was more so a result of her anti social attitude...
lol wow I wasnt expecting to get this many responses but thanks, everything you guys said makes a lot of sense. But I am not into her or anything, ive known her for like 6 months, since she was in two of my classes last semester and is in one of my classes this semester. I have no attraction for her, were just going to the club, she'll be a wing women, id even be willing to wing for her to get her laid haha. We're definitely going this friday. Ill finally get to see what the club scene is like lol.
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Why are you so insecure with how you'll look with her? What are you a 9 or something? C'mon. A 6 isn't even supposed to be ugly. At least she's not a 2
haha, honestly I was being generous when I gave her a 6, shes probably like a 5/6. Shes not ugly though, shes like whatever. Id give myself like an 8.Meisterman said:
My scale is pretty weighted though as Im a little picky, to the average person shes probably a really solid 6 - higher if you consider she is smart and fairly rich, she also has fairly large breasts.
Shes also very sexual, she was telling us how she thinks sex isnt a big deal and how theres no difference between a girl that had sex with 100 men and a girl that had sex with 1 guy 100 times.
IMO, she really wants to get laid haha.
Thats true. Ive recently realized this and I can say it has made me into a better/happier person.Espi said:
Thanks everyone for responding.
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That's exactly the way I looked at it. How is he to rate her "value" on looks alone, it sounds like she has a lot more going on than that...bigneil said:
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Also don't forget - you never know the kinds of friends a girl could possibly introduce you to. I have the same kind of friend, she's honestly a 4 or 5 on a good day, but she's a really nice girl with a big heart. Not only did she introduce me to a really good looking friend of hers once (8 in the looks department), she put in a good word for me which was helpful if you know what I mean 
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Well, it depends. If you are a 4 yourself, she will probably raise your value.ChemGod said:
Oops, I forgot, everybody on this forum thinks they are 8s or higher. In that case, if you're really an 8, it's not likely that some girl will be able to reduce your value, unless she is a real hosebeast. Then people might wonder what the heck is wrong with you.
I find HB6s to be very doable. That's about as low as I would go, but they are still within acceptable range. Wouldn't be ashamed to be seen with one at all.
EDITED TO SAY: Bigneil beat me to it!
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.