GorillaPimp
Don Juan
Is it ok to call a female on a game that she is playing on you?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
It depends on the situation.Originally posted by GorillaPimp:
Is it ok to call a female on a game that she is playing on you?
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Depends entirely how interested you are, how serious the game is, and whether or not she might be worth the effort.Originally posted by GorillaPimp:
Is it ok to call a female on a game that she is playing on you?
Um...could you kindly direct me to where I said that women ONLY play games if the guy is playing games? Oops...nevermind...you can't do that because that's NOT what I said. IF a woman picks up on a guy playing games, she often will resort to using those very same tactics in response.Originally posted by WildThang:
Depends entirely how interested you are, how serious the game is, and whether or not she might be worth the effort.
There are games like 'Testing conversation' that pretty much all chicks play. Calling them on that is a waste of time because they don't realise they're doing it anyway. So you just need to be able to improvise suave DJ response that shows you're not bothered or shaken or stirred by.
There are more serious games like 'Come and get me - hey, look, now that you've shown some interest I prefer someone else' that are *poison*. If you come across these, get the hell out. Don't bother showing some spine - any chick that does this isn't worth your time, so the best approach is to walk away.
Another thing - there's dealing with games, and there's calling women on games and saying outright 'You're playing a game here - I don't do games.'
As I said, most chicks don't realise that their games are in any way unacceptable. They assume that's just what you do and how you act. So going for the big accusation drama option is a waste.
What you really need is smooth DJ dealing-with skills. Those take practice. But basically if the chick realises that you are your own man, and you're not taking any crap from her, you've won. If she misplays and loses you - remember it's *her loss.*
Oh, and Wyldfire's comment about women will only play games if guys do first is pure chick BS, as usual.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Could you tell us the situation??? My personal opinion is game playing female=low interest level=move on with your life.Originally posted by GorillaPimp:
Is it ok to call a female on a game that she is playing on you?