So I have two neighbors, both heavy smokers, both thin physique and both super ripped and defined but neither of them works out...like at all! They have/had physical jobs but not like the construction workers. One of them does network/low voltage wiring and the other has been retired for 2-3 yrs (he's mid 40s, all three of us are the same age) works on his project cars and stuff. I know them fairly well. Whenever I see them they're always just hanging out drinking a beer and smoking. I haven't drank in years, I work out and I'm not even 25% of what their physique is like, pisses me off. Is it genetics or is it the smoking that burns all the fat off?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Is it just me or thin smokers are super ripped...as in 8% body fat
- Thread starter HankHill
- Start date
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
RedScorpion
Senior Don Juan
- Joined
- Jul 23, 2012
- Messages
- 410
- Reaction score
- 216
- Age
- 38
Smoking kills your appetite. And having little fat will have your skin cling to your muscles - making it seem well-defined. Everyone will have a basic layer of muscles, even lethargic people. My friend, similar physique, has a visible 6 pack - but that’s because he’s super skinny. Doesn’t hit the gym.
I’m guessing they’re not looking bulked up. Some girls like super skinny, but from what I’ve seen they prefer a bit of bulk-muscle for the most part.
I’m guessing they’re not looking bulked up. Some girls like super skinny, but from what I’ve seen they prefer a bit of bulk-muscle for the most part.
RedScorpion
Senior Don Juan
- Joined
- Jul 23, 2012
- Messages
- 410
- Reaction score
- 216
- Age
- 38
Well that guy seems like he hits the gym somewhat decently, if that’s their physique.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
That's the thing, they don't work out. May be they did in their younger years. If I hang my arm straight down it's a fvkng flat arm, their's you can distinctly see the deltoids separate from the biceps, separate from the forearms and veins that are quarter inch thick. Ugh.
ImTheDoubleGreatest!
Master Don Juan
Smoking causes an acute increase in testosterone levels. That’s why that ‘bad boy’ characer from old movies and tv shows is often depicted as a smoker. People with high testosterone tend to give less craps and be the more ‘bad boy’ type, and smoking causes an sharp increase in test. Of course, media directors don’t know this, they just notice the trend. It typically starts to decline over time as they continue to stay smokers, and like those with low T, it’s also why a lot of times when people quit smoking they get depressed.
Testosterone also helps build muscle and all that.
Testosterone also helps build muscle and all that.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Crack smokers?
wtf really? shall I smoke then?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Chev.Chelios
Master Don Juan
bpd ex made me so miserable smoked 2 packs a day for 2 weeks straight without eatting any food.
my bodys hot without ever hitting the gym lawl
my bodys hot without ever hitting the gym lawl
id take steroids tho but i dont like needles
zekko
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Aug 6, 2009
- Messages
- 16,761
- Reaction score
- 9,969
Well, that and because pretty much everybody smoked back in those days.
I've seen this effect the OP is talking about, in some people who are really focused on their addiction. I've seen it with cigarettes and hardcore alcoholics. They'll smoke and drink instead of eating, so they end up with very low body fat, which can be appealing on the right body type.
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.